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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg so they say two

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times a charm three times a charm let me

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tell you what you're hearing now is the

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second cut or version of the

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introductory this week's episode of our

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cast with gene Steinberg and Chris

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O'Brien and the reason you're hearing it

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this way and that the original way is

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not because we didn't think the original

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discussion was good we thought it was a

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great discussion the fact is that

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something strange happened to the

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recording Chris's voice could not be

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heard yeah I guess the universe is

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editing me well you're trying to be a

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trickster no I don't have to try it kind

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of comes with my territory I guess or

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something so what do you think 2011 this

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is our first show for 2012 what do you

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think were the most important

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developments if any in the field of

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paranormal research it could be UFOs it

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could be other paranormal phenomena it

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could even be cryptozoology what do you

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think any really big developments

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surprisingly actually gene nothing

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really springs to mind I think some of

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the UFO activity in you know the Kansas

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and also seems California is really is

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kind of leading the nation with sighting

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events and I think that that's also

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interesting that you should have a place

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like like the Kansas area right in the

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center of the country experienced in

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such high levels of sighting activity of

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course maybe our tax dollars at work or

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play in play but I think it's going to

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be interesting to see how the sighting

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events unfold over you know this coming

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year and whether we do see return a

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return to some of the levels of activity

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in the Rocky Mountains which which I

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think have been fairly quiet normally

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in sighting activity and but not not in

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2011 so I guess we'll have to kind of

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see and also I think the 2012 Mayan

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calendar Fuhrer is gonna make some for

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some interesting copy here on the coming

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year but I'll have to reserve judgment

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on that maybe get a couple of shows

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talking about the folly that the media

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is perpetrating on everybody concerning

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this upcoming winter solstice in a year

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but it's gonna be it's gonna get a lot

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more interesting before it gets any more

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dull Jean I want to ask you about that

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okay the folly of the media is

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responsible for about 2012 in the Mayan

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calendar how about The Reader's Digest

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version and we'll discuss this in more

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detail in future shows well again it's

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you know it's like freaking out because

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your remember how our cars used to have

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analog odometers and they click over and

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like 999 or ninety-nine thousand they

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click over to back to zero that's

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basically what's going on with three of

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calendars 19 important calendars that

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the Maya does devised and the Long Count

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calendar which is a 26 thousand year

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cycle is clicking over and that's the

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indication that our solar system has

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gone completely around the galaxy and

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there's uh the cartoon in the Bakhtin

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which a 52 year cycle and I think a 3200

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year cycle these are all ending these

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new cycle the way the media makes it

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sound there's one Mayan calendar and it

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ends and that's like saying our calendar

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ends and calendars don't end they just

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they just cycle through and this is an

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important time period I think the Maya

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to have to move above 4000 feet or 4,500

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whether the world's gonna you know have

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Claddagh - really nasty events a curve

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that remains to be seen it wouldn't

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surprise me the way things are going but

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whole subject a disservice by by

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promoting this whole

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of doom and gloom scenario that I don't

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think is it accurate well you know what

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makes things more difficult here is the

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fact that once something gets started in

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the media the meme of the month it's

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change things you know yeah in people

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televisions that they don't they don't

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research and get the the facts I mean I

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was watching The History Channel I think

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about four or five years ago and you

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know you think the History Channel would

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would get basic facts right

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they made the statement that the the

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Maya who went extinct in the 1300s it's

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like you know they don't mention that

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the Maya the largest group of indigenous

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Americans is like three point five or

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four million Maya I think at last count

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and they made it sound like the Maya

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aren't extinct people how do they react

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to this being told they're extinct well

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Don Alejandro who is one of the real

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Guatemalan timekeepers he's he's the

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real deal he came to Sedona and spoke a

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couple of years back and I just had a

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curiosity I went to the event and he got

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up there and and he was really funny

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through an interpreter he says you you

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know you white boys think you've got got

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the whole mind thing all figured out and

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you don't have a clue he said this whole

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you know end of the of these cycles in

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the Mayan calendars it's it's not a

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particularly things gonna happen it

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could happen right now it could happen

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in five minutes it could happen tomorrow

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next week we're in that time period

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where significant change is gonna occur

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on the planet you just have to be ready

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for it and he said something very

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cryptic to me which sounded cryptic to

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me and it's also echoed by the hopi who

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have a very similar admonishment to

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people and that is if one day you wake

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up and the Sun doesn't come up lock your

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doors shut your curtains lock your

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windows and no matter who comes to your

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door do not open it and I found that

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very interesting that the Maya and the

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Hopi and in this case two elders from

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these particular cultures are echoing

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each other and saying they're the

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virtually the same exact thing I find

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that very interesting well it's kind of

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a fatalistic kind of thing like if the

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world is gonna end well it's over just

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make your plans if you're still around

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to see the final stages of it I guess

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I'm I'm the eternal optimist so I'm

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helping fill the glass forget the

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half-empty I have full stuff the glass

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will be full and I prefer if I have to

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buy into a scenario well you know either

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doom and gloom or transformation uh I'm

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I'm helping transform myself and

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everybody else already so speaking of

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transformation we have a transformative

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guest this week Rajesh Oh rosemary ellen

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guiley what does she have for us this

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well rosemary is one of my favorite

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investigators in the field she's a

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political she's written over 50 books

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including six encyclopedias I had the

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distinct pleasure and honor of having

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her accompany me on a trip to the San

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Luis Valley Inn in the spring she is a

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top-notch professional in the field I

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learned a lot from her her latest book

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is called rosemary ellen guiley 'he's

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pocket dream dictionary and we're gonna

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have a lot of fun talking about dream

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interpretation there's over 600 terms in

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her dictionary she's already written

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several books on dreams and was uh was

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aborted I think a board member one of

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the board of directors of of an

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association of of dream investigators or

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she'll tell us about that I'm not sure

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what the actual organization's name is

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but she is one of my favorite people in

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the field she's really grounded it has

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helped many many people who have had

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tremendously life-changing experiences

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related to the paranormal and this is

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really going to be a fascinating talk

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definitely when it gets down to dreams

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thought much about I mean involving

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about this stuff but I haven't really

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the ones that seem to occur over and

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over have any specific meaning you know

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whether I should disclose any of the

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dreams in the course of the show it

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oddball paranormal experiences or that

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I might present a few do you think

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you're gonna handle it can you handle

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the truth well this will be interesting

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Jane you're pretty close to the vest

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with a lot of things interesting to hear

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what you have to say about your dream

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life my fast yeah let me look at my

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all right for our first show of 2012 we

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have rosemary ellen guiley coming up

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it's a great show and I know we're going

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to talk about some very interesting

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topics tonight well one of the things

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the Chris was mentioned you have a new

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book on dream interpretation you know

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give me the basics here I've been

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fascinated by the big meaning of Dreams

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my entire life and I have kept a dream

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journal I've written several books on

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understanding your dreams especially

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from a spiritual perspective our dreams

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tell us about our concerns and our

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emotions and how we feel we're doing in

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life they reflect back a lot of our

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concerns about what we're dealing with

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in waking life but they also have a

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bigger component they speak to us on a

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spiritual level

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many of them are paranormal and we also

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can have extraordinary experiences and

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dreams where we are literally in another

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dimensional reality so it's almost like

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traveling from here to there but as far

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as your consciousness is concerned

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you're asleep that's right I think that

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we have experiences during dreaming that

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are either impossible or more difficult

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for us to have during waking

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consciousness when we're engaged in the

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physical reality now the ancients knew

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this ancient cultures had a great

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appreciation for dreams and the ability

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of dreams to enable human beings to

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access the realm of the gods Plato

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called dreams the between state

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literally a place where the human

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consciousness would go during sleep

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to have interaction with the dead and

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the God this tradition has been passed

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on down through the centuries and as

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part of our dream work today

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now dreams have sort of come and gone

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out of fashion a number of times in

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Western culture over the centuries they

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have been downplayed in Christianity

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they've always been doubts about dreams

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and in terms of do they speak the truth

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or not dreams have been considered to be

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imaginary fanciful dealing with sexual

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issues but dreams regained importance in

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the Western culture in the late 1800s

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with the development of psychotherapy

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and the emerging discipline of

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psychology and Sigmund Freud was the

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great pioneer there he considered dreams

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to be the Royal Road to the unconscious

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however he looked at them as largely

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expressing repressed emotions and

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especially having to do with sexual

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issues

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now his most important pupil was Carl

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Jung and Jung took dreams to another

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level he was truly a mystic he

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understood the deep spiritual meaning of

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dreams and he used a lot of his own

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dreaming experiences as a springboard

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for how he developed his psychology

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around dreams dreams to him were full of

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archetypes which speak to human beings

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on a universal level this gets about

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back to what the ancients and Plato

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talked about in terms of the between

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state and he developed this approach to

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dreams in a much different way from

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Freud and that's really a major

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component of our dream work today dreams

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that deal with our waking life issues

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and also our spiritual issues things

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that we deal with in our life journey

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and our concepts of ourselves as souls

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and in the big cosmic picture but I

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think the sense is here do dreams

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present some other parallel reality and

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how do you demonstrate that's the case

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what dreams are subjective

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the only person

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who can truly interpret a dream is the

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dreamer himself other people can suggest

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meanings dream dictionaries are valuable

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starting points because they deal with a

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lot of common symbols that seem to have

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universal meanings to most people but

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our dreams are about us in very unique

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ways they near the context of our lives

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our personal beliefs which are shaped by

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our own experiences our culture or

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background our religion our family life

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and so there they're really unique to

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the individual but there are common

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patterns in dreaming that have been

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documented throughout the ages and they

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have to do with our encounters these are

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big dreams where people say that they're

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not really certain that they're dreaming

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they feel like they're having a real

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experience and I think that this is the

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case that there is something about

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dreaming consciousness that opens us up

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to another reality another dimension and

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we have a breakthrough experience we

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have real meetings with the dead we have

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encounters with aliens with alien beings

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we have encounters with spirit guides

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and teachers angels even demons all of

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these things are possible in states of

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dreaming now the question I think that

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that raises rosemary forgive me for

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interrupting you is the reality of this

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are you actually physically going to

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this other reality or dimension or

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whatever or are you briefly living

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someone else's life

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I believe that in many cases we are

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actually in another dimensional reality

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much the same way in an astral

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projection going out-of-body we have the

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capability of projecting into another

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dimension for a different kind of

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experience all of this of course is very

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hard to document scientifically because

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dreams really can't be replicated in a

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laboratory

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about the only thing science has been

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able to study concerning dreams are some

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statistical evidence about precognition

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and dreams and also

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telepathy and dreams but the spiritual

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experience is something that really

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depends on interpretation it is

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subjective interpretation but the

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patterns are very common throughout

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history that human beings have had

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certain kinds of dream experiences that

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seem to be other dimensional and are

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fairly consistent in characteristics

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over the centuries one thing that I've

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noticed recently is some articles

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looking at the at brain science and the

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fact that you know scientists are now

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studying dream subjects and mapping the

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patterning of of synaptic activity in

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the brain and and from what I can gather

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certain types of dreams tend to create

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certain synaptic pathways and if this is

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true then there may be some ability at

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some point to start mapping dreams and

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and interpreting them in a hard

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scientific way in terms of how the brain

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actually functions one thing I wanted to

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ask you rosemary is how about

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reoccurring dreams and dreams that that

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seem to have a progression like I have a

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series of AB dreamscapes that are pretty

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easy for me to identify now they seem to

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have a very similar kind of of feel in

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terms of the topography of the

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dreamscape and I'll tell you ladies and

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gentlemen this what you're going to hear

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now is not a dreamscape if you have a

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623
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hi this is Don Ecker and you are tuned

624
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in to the para cast let me tell you what

625
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:09,220
you're gonna hear stuff here that you

626
00:27:15,390 --> 00:27:12,730
probably won't hear anywhere else hear

627
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:15,400
that George wouldn't you know it

628
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:18,180
neighbors every time Chris begins a long

629
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:20,650
monologue about something with an

630
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:23,530
extensive question we end up having to

631
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:25,510
do that break on the paragraphs with

632
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:26,890
Gene and Chris rosemary ellen guiley

633
00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:28,900
Chris you want to pick up on that thread

634
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:31,630
well yeah in other words the whole idea

635
00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:34,930
of a particular setting that a

636
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:38,230
reoccurring dream occurs and and not you

637
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:39,970
know what I'm trying to describe is not

638
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:42,130
necessarily a reoccurring dream but it's

639
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:44,830
a reoccurring sort of place which for

640
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:47,230
many years I didn't experience this but

641
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:50,080
for the past five or six years I've had

642
00:27:56,730 --> 00:27:54,130
three pretty identifiable kind of feels

643
00:27:58,290 --> 00:27:56,740
and in looks two dreams and and they

644
00:28:00,540 --> 00:27:58,300
they're all in color most of my dreams

645
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:00,550
are not in color what do we know about

646
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:04,480
this is there any way to to kind of I

647
00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:07,890
don't know sort of quantify this somehow

648
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:10,660
recurring dreams often have to do with

649
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:12,430
things in life that aren't being

650
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:15,280
resolved and when they are resolved a

651
00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:17,770
recurring dream stop many of these are

652
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:20,440
anxiety dreams but sometimes we have big

653
00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:23,290
dreams where we do feel like we're in

654
00:28:29,910 --> 00:28:27,400
another extraordinary place it might be

655
00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:29,920
an earthly landscape or something very

656
00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:31,990
different we the dreams have a different

657
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:34,060
feel to them a different emotional tone

658
00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:37,090
we might be lucid in the dreams these

659
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:39,190
might have a spiritual purpose to them

660
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:42,340
for example some years ago I went

661
00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:44,260
through a series of recurring dreams

662
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:47,140
where I was always in the presence of a

663
00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:49,690
being that I described as an angel

664
00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:52,300
that's how this being seemed to present

665
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,430
itself to me it could have been a spirit

666
00:28:59,250 --> 00:28:56,320
guide a teacher did not seem to be a

667
00:29:02,880 --> 00:28:59,260
human being and the setting of the

668
00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:02,890
dreams was always some sort of what I

669
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:04,840
would call an unearthly landscape

670
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:06,820
because none of the topography looked

671
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:08,740
like anything that I had ever seen on

672
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:11,050
earth either in real life or in any

673
00:29:13,539 --> 00:29:12,850
photographs and these were teaching

674
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:13,549
dreams were

675
00:29:20,499 --> 00:29:15,919
was getting telepathic instruction from

676
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:20,509
this this being and it seemed to pertain

677
00:29:27,789 --> 00:29:25,039
to my work in this life and also just to

678
00:29:31,139 --> 00:29:27,799
the development the unfolding of my

679
00:29:33,729 --> 00:29:31,149
life's path these dreams recurred for

680
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:33,739
quite a few months and then they came to

681
00:29:39,850 --> 00:29:36,950
an end and my interpretation of them was

682
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:39,860
that I was getting some sort of

683
00:29:45,009 --> 00:29:42,769
spiritual education in this form which

684
00:29:47,769 --> 00:29:45,019
had to take place during the Dreaming

685
00:29:50,619 --> 00:29:47,779
state because I was outside of ordinary

686
00:29:52,769 --> 00:29:50,629
space and time and when the instruction

687
00:29:57,149 --> 00:29:52,779
was complete those dreams stopped I

688
00:30:00,220 --> 00:29:57,159
think that first we have to look at

689
00:30:02,049 --> 00:30:00,230
symbolism related to waking life because

690
00:30:04,239 --> 00:30:02,059
dreams do speak to us about ordinary

691
00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:04,249
life and then we need to look at them

692
00:30:08,649 --> 00:30:06,950
from a spiritual perspective so Chris if

693
00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:08,659
I were you I would take those dreams and

694
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:12,200
I would say okay what do they have to

695
00:30:18,909 --> 00:30:14,570
tell me about things going on in my life

696
00:30:22,090 --> 00:30:18,919
and going on then to another level how

697
00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:22,100
might they be addressing something on a

698
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:24,470
larger scale from a paranormal or

699
00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:26,570
spiritual perspective you know I

700
00:30:30,369 --> 00:30:28,580
understand the it's kind of a

701
00:30:32,289 --> 00:30:30,379
conventional interpretation of

702
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:32,299
reoccurring dreams but but these are

703
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:33,950
these are different they're like

704
00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:36,200
serialized I almost pick up where I left

705
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:39,470
off and they're very positive they in a

706
00:30:45,849 --> 00:30:41,840
nutshell basically it's it's me teaching

707
00:30:49,149 --> 00:30:45,859
people how to fly and the more this

708
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,159
dream progresses over the months you

709
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:51,919
know I might have won every one of these

710
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:54,169
dreams every couple of months or

711
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:56,090
something this has been going on for a

712
00:31:01,749 --> 00:30:58,970
number of years the dream seems to get

713
00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:01,759
more more involved there's there's more

714
00:31:06,609 --> 00:31:04,100
dramatic elements but it's very positive

715
00:31:08,769 --> 00:31:06,619
in terms of what I'm doing and how I'm

716
00:31:11,139 --> 00:31:08,779
sharing this knowledge of how to fly

717
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:11,149
with other people now there is some sort

718
00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:13,730
of kind of nefarious element that's sort

719
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:15,590
of lurking around in the background but

720
00:31:19,539 --> 00:31:17,450
it's it's it doesn't seem very

721
00:31:21,789 --> 00:31:19,549
threatening at this point it did

722
00:31:23,499 --> 00:31:21,799
initially but it doesn't now and this is

723
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:23,509
really unusual for me because I normally

724
00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:25,770
don't have dreams of this kind

725
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:29,340
and a total caller - I should add and

726
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:31,470
and completely lucid I'm able to go

727
00:31:36,530 --> 00:31:33,570
wherever I want in the dream obviously

728
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:36,540
at the yeah it's it's very lucid and I

729
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:39,720
do have control but only control within

730
00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:42,170
the particular you know sort of

731
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:45,300
situational you know the situation

732
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:46,770
that's going on in the dream it's not

733
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:49,890
like I can I can only control myself

734
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:52,770
within the dream parameters let's say I

735
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:54,330
can't say well I think I'm gonna go

736
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,310
visit the Dalai Lama boom and then go

737
00:32:00,980 --> 00:31:57,840
there if that's not part of what's going

738
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:00,990
on then it never it it never seems to

739
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:03,720
you know to enter my dream consciousness

740
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:06,150
you know to do something totally non

741
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:08,670
sequitur and out of the blue but within

742
00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:10,260
the context of the dream I'm able to

743
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:13,590
make choices I'm able to to weigh

744
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,170
options in that sort of thing which I

745
00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:18,720
normally am not able to do that so is

746
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:21,630
this a good thing or do I need some help

747
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:24,030
you're very fortunate Chris lucid

748
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:27,450
dreaming is considered to be a kind of a

749
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:29,940
different frontier on dreaming some

750
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:32,580
people lose a dream a lot almost every

751
00:32:36,590 --> 00:32:34,770
night and other people only have lucid

752
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:36,600
dreams every now and then and some

753
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:38,730
people have the ability to sort of

754
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:41,190
program lucid dreaming like tell

755
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:42,720
themselves before they go to sleep I'd

756
00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:44,610
like to you know be in control of my

757
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:47,340
dreams tonight and for others it's much

758
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:49,320
harder but the research that's been done

759
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:53,190
on lucid dreams has associated this

760
00:32:58,790 --> 00:32:55,610
particular state of dreaming with

761
00:33:02,060 --> 00:32:58,800
healing creativity and kind of an

762
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:02,070
evolutionary direction for human

763
00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:05,990
dreaming consciousness so to speak and

764
00:33:14,090 --> 00:33:10,380
being able to control the dream seems to

765
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:14,100
have a lot of creative and healing

766
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,210
energy to it when you can direct the

767
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:21,600
outcome where you're going and fly is a

768
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:24,990
very common component of these dreams

769
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:27,570
it's associated again with creativity

770
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:30,390
with liberation with being able to do

771
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:33,030
extraordinary things that is maybe in

772
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:35,670
these sorts of dreams were accessing a

773
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:38,910
part of our potential that in waking

774
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:39,630
conscious

775
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:42,990
we don't seem to access very often let

776
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:45,090
me ask you briefly here rosemary does

777
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:47,400
this signify possibly a frustration with

778
00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:50,130
your ability to make things happen that

779
00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:54,060
maybe you want to make a breakthrough in

780
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:56,700
business and personal life and you're

781
00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:58,320
hitting a roadblock and maybe the dream

782
00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:01,260
is showing you a direction it's possible

783
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:03,300
you would have to look at it from a

784
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:05,580
context situation like what else is

785
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:08,370
going on in waking life sometimes flying

786
00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:12,050
dreams relate to a desire to escape one

787
00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:15,240
circumstances and other times a flying

788
00:34:21,050 --> 00:34:18,179
dream can represent liberation a new

789
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:21,060
creative height so it a lot depends on

790
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,270
what's going on in life and also the

791
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:26,700
emotions of the dreamer in the dream and

792
00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:30,510
upon awakening whether or not they're

793
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:32,220
things I really associated with the

794
00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:35,690
dream or an exhilaration for example

795
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:37,889
yeah well mine are definitely

796
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:40,470
exhilarating and they started out with

797
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:43,560
me being able to to to fly but but

798
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:46,649
slowly kind of not really almost like a

799
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:49,950
you know a propeller plane and World War

800
00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:52,830
1 now I can zip almost instantaneously

801
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:55,620
anywhere I want to go and I'm showing

802
00:35:02,240 --> 00:34:57,630
other people how to do it which I find

803
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:02,250
particularly exhilarating I must say one

804
00:35:07,610 --> 00:35:04,440
thing that you might try Chris since

805
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:07,620
you're able to direct the course and the

806
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:09,960
outcome of the dreams is before you go

807
00:35:15,290 --> 00:35:12,960
to sleep at night ask for these lucid

808
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:15,300
dreams and also to be given information

809
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:17,430
in the dreams as to their purpose where

810
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:19,290
are these dreams leading now when you

811
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:24,450
say ask for the lucid dream and forgive

812
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:26,220
me I'm a neophyte on such subjects like

813
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,020
programming yourself gene yeah how do

814
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,240
you program yourself give yourself

815
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:33,000
instructions you can't actually program

816
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:36,180
yourself to to have certain kinds of

817
00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:38,010
dreams or to have your dreams give you

818
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:39,990
specific information this has been done

819
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:42,330
since ancient times and one of the

820
00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:45,180
easiest techniques is to do some

821
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meditation before you go to sleep with a

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specific question tonight I am going to

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dream the answer to this question or to

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I would like a message

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pertaining to Blanc Blanc and oftentimes

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the Dreaming mind will respond and the

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that you have to interpret the message

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may be very clear in the dream sometimes

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the dream itself doesn't answer the

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you when you awaken so you basically

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other people do I'm Jean Steinberg with

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Chris O'Brien we're talking to rosemary

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ellen guiley you've got a book out there

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about dream interpretation and one thing

965
00:42:02,640 --> 00:41:59,770
I see for example is I tend to be weary

966
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of heights so I tend to have dreams

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sometimes trying to drive on a road that

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goes up a mountain which is not very

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pleasant so is that just confirming what

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I already know about myself our dreams

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always give us information that it's

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helpful to us in new ways you can

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consider them a mirror of truth

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reflecting back to us our honest

975
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feelings usually about how we think

976
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we're doing in life car dreams are very

977
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common and they often represent the ego

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or the self you know it's like the

979
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vehicle you drive around life in so cars

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that are new and shiny or old and

981
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dilapidated might say something about

982
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something going on in life or some

983
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attitudes we have whether or not we get

984
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lost we're on a crooked road a straight

985
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road going fast going slow and the

986
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driver's seat the passenger's seat all

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of these things are very valuable

988
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symbols so going up a mountain it's like

989
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conquering something the mountain is a

990
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:03,370
symbol of spiritual Heights also

991
00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:05,050
intellectual Heights that can represent

992
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:07,600
withdrawal from the world it can

993
00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:10,540
represent the conquest like climbing

994
00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:13,180
Mount Everest so the dream might have a

995
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:16,300
lot to say about a situation in life or

996
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:19,330
a path in life alright so for example

997
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,420
I'm trying to climb the mountain with my

998
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motor vehicle whatever it might be I'm

999
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trying to achieve something I haven't

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achieved yet

1001
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and what kind of road are you on is it

1002
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full of obstacles is it a dirt road deep

1003
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and difficult to drive are you kind of

1004
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sailing along well it's kind of a road

1005
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that's steep such as the road that takes

1006
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you to around a mountain so if I'm

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traveling for example from Phoenix

1008
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Arizona to Flagstaff and I drive around

1009
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these mountains which kind of irritates

1010
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me to be frank about it it's that kind

1011
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of well right by my house right just try

1012
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to drive by Chris's house would be more

1013
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:01,600
than sufficient in DreamWorks what we do

1014
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:04,180
is we look at every component of a dream

1015
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:06,700
and relate it back to the self the

1016
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fundamental of modern dream work is that

1017
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:11,080
everything in a dream represents

1018
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:13,600
something about you even inanimate

1019
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:18,550
objects and landscape features so the

1020
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:20,980
mountain says something about the self

1021
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:23,050
the road says something about the self

1022
00:44:29,490 --> 00:44:26,760
and you do a lot of free association and

1023
00:44:32,010 --> 00:44:29,500
the intuition will tell you when you've

1024
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:32,020
made a hit this is why the dreamer is

1025
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:33,490
the only person who can truly

1026
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:36,490
interpreted dream but sometimes the

1027
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:40,750
suggestions of others will spark a new

1028
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,030
line of thinking so if that were my

1029
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:46,000
dream about going up the mountain first

1030
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:48,700
I would look at my emotions in the dream

1031
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:52,960
am i frustrated am I having a good time

1032
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,330
what does the mountain represent to me

1033
00:45:01,050 --> 00:44:57,760
it doesn't represent a situation a

1034
00:45:03,690 --> 00:45:01,060
project a problem a relationship or

1035
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:03,700
something bigger like where am I headed

1036
00:45:08,610 --> 00:45:05,650
in my life am I really going in the

1037
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:08,620
right direction I want to go up I want

1038
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:10,270
to reach the heights but how am I

1039
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:12,790
getting there I would look at the road

1040
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:15,190
and the obstacles in it I would look at

1041
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:20,530
the the vehicle itself and how I feel

1042
00:45:27,870 --> 00:45:24,160
about the vehicle and do I feel like I'm

1043
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:27,880
going somewhere or in the dream am I

1044
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:30,640
wondering where I'm going and all of

1045
00:45:36,540 --> 00:45:34,090
those threads of Association will

1046
00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:36,550
address the dream from different

1047
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,120
perspectives that help the dreamer sort

1048
00:45:44,190 --> 00:45:41,440
out what the

1049
00:45:46,770 --> 00:45:44,200
mental message is of the dreams so in

1050
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:46,780
order to interpret your dream you really

1051
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:48,910
got to do a little studying on what the

1052
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,190
things might mean it does require a

1053
00:45:56,059 --> 00:45:52,960
little bit of work but you know it's

1054
00:45:58,589 --> 00:45:56,069
it's easy to do it's easy to learn and

1055
00:46:02,280 --> 00:45:58,599
the more you do it the easier it gets

1056
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:02,290
and the the dreaming consciousness will

1057
00:46:06,450 --> 00:46:04,690
then begin to communicate even in more

1058
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:06,460
vivid ways it's like once we start

1059
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:10,710
honoring the dream the dream starts

1060
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,319
speaking back to us in bolder ways so

1061
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,000
it's important to write dreams down

1062
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:19,119
because they're very easy to forget and

1063
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:21,670
to keep a log and you spend some time at

1064
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,530
it you don't need to spend you know

1065
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:25,359
hours and hours every day you know

1066
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:26,970
parsing through everything in a dream

1067
00:46:34,410 --> 00:46:32,800
but it's important to spend it at least

1068
00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:34,420
a little bit of time trying to figure

1069
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:36,940
out specifically what a dream is talking

1070
00:46:45,569 --> 00:46:40,980
about there are lots of techniques for

1071
00:46:50,609 --> 00:46:45,579
analyzing the symbols to sort of unlock

1072
00:46:53,099 --> 00:46:50,619
the energy of the dream and once you

1073
00:46:56,190 --> 00:46:53,109
start doing it a lot then it becomes

1074
00:46:57,809 --> 00:46:56,200
very easy and a lot of times when you

1075
00:47:01,920 --> 00:46:57,819
wake up you pretty well know what the

1076
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:01,930
dream has had in store for you with the

1077
00:47:06,660 --> 00:47:04,690
message now one thing about dreams is we

1078
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:06,670
have color dreams we have black and

1079
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:08,650
white dreams and at one time I read

1080
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:10,540
something where it said that women tend

1081
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:13,089
to dream in color more often than men is

1082
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:16,960
that true yes it is most people in

1083
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:19,510
general dream in color but more women

1084
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:21,700
than men dream in color and you know

1085
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:23,890
Chris mentioned a while ago that these

1086
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:26,290
unusual dreams or lucid dreams were in

1087
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:28,329
color words he usually dreams in black

1088
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:30,490
and white so sometimes that's an

1089
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:33,520
indication from the Dreaming mind to pay

1090
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:35,920
more attention because the dream is

1091
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:38,290
different in some way for me it's the

1092
00:47:43,050 --> 00:47:40,930
reverse I dream in color but when I have

1093
00:47:45,329 --> 00:47:43,060
an unusual dream or what I call one of

1094
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,339
these big spiritual dreams it's more

1095
00:47:52,050 --> 00:47:47,880
often in black and white than in color

1096
00:47:54,059 --> 00:47:52,060
so basically you're the reverse I am but

1097
00:47:55,410 --> 00:47:54,069
you know I think this can vary with

1098
00:47:58,109 --> 00:47:55,420
individuals are

1099
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,119
dreaming mine has many ways to get our

1100
00:48:02,579 --> 00:48:00,400
attention and tell us when something is

1101
00:48:05,069 --> 00:48:02,589
more important than what would be

1102
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:05,079
considered to be ordinary dreaming Chris

1103
00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:06,900
let's talk about your dreams a bit more

1104
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,020
well one dream that if I had to pick the

1105
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:12,960
the most amazing dream I've ever had

1106
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:18,250
happened back in 1989 I I was in just

1107
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:20,290
like an idyllic sort of suburban

1108
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:23,410
environment and all the sounds that I

1109
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:25,569
heard were doing these two particular

1110
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:31,410
notes and car horns doorbells Birds

1111
00:48:38,670 --> 00:48:36,490
children plane all were seemed to be

1112
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:38,680
based on this this to this one note

1113
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:41,170
interval between two notes and and it

1114
00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:43,890
was very very hypnotic and magical and I

1115
00:48:50,490 --> 00:48:46,750
kind of got back into a sort of a waking

1116
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:50,500
state I hypnagogic state I think is the

1117
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:54,400
word and I remember thinking man I wish

1118
00:48:58,380 --> 00:48:57,730
I could could record this and I fell

1119
00:49:00,450 --> 00:48:58,390
back asleep

1120
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:00,460
and I kind of went in the same dream but

1121
00:49:05,460 --> 00:49:02,170
it didn't last very long and when I woke

1122
00:49:07,289 --> 00:49:05,470
up the next morning I happen to look

1123
00:49:10,109 --> 00:49:07,299
down at my you know I keep a little

1124
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:10,119
notepad by my bedside and I had written

1125
00:49:14,370 --> 00:49:12,130
out complete recording instructions on

1126
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,380
how to record the soundtrack of my dream

1127
00:49:19,549 --> 00:49:17,200
so I called in sick to work and sat

1128
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:19,559
there half the day recording this piece

1129
00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:25,210
which I still still have and it's I hold

1130
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:27,940
it very dear dear to my my musical heart

1131
00:49:34,109 --> 00:49:31,150
because it's it's actually been used to

1132
00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:34,119
help coma patients and I've done some

1133
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,349
healing work with it actually

1134
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:37,359
inadvertently through other people's

1135
00:49:43,859 --> 00:49:41,950
efforts and so if I had to pick my my

1136
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,869
most memorable dream it was the one

1137
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:45,280
where I actually wrote instructions on

1138
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:46,690
how to record the soundtrack to the

1139
00:49:53,370 --> 00:49:49,839
truth believe it or not so you ought to

1140
00:49:56,609 --> 00:49:53,380
dream about a dream no I recorded the

1141
00:49:58,270 --> 00:49:56,619
soundtrack to the dream and did a

1142
00:50:03,550 --> 00:49:58,280
12-minute

1143
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:03,560
and it was used by some health

1144
00:50:09,790 --> 00:50:05,690
practitioners a nurse and and some

1145
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:09,800
healers too to help bring people out of

1146
00:50:17,290 --> 00:50:15,200
coma and positive affirmations you know

1147
00:50:18,970 --> 00:50:17,300
it's a beautiful world you know I'm

1148
00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:18,980
missing so much my family misses me and

1149
00:50:23,380 --> 00:50:21,020
we would put these at a subliminal level

1150
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:23,390
in the in the recording and then with

1151
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:25,490
the soundtrack of the dream it actually

1152
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:27,050
was successful the first time we tried

1153
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,110
it I wasn't my idea to try it and you

1154
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:32,000
know and use it in this manner but it

1155
00:50:36,610 --> 00:50:34,250
was used like that and and it's been

1156
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:36,620
used several other times to varying

1157
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:38,330
degrees of success but the first the

1158
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:39,950
first time it was used a little

1159
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:41,210
six-year-old girl was brought out of

1160
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:43,730
coma after six months being in coma they

1161
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:45,110
were ready to pull the plug on her in

1162
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:48,890
and they had 24 hours to you know just

1163
00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:50,270
bring her out or they were gonna you

1164
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:53,270
know take life support off her and and

1165
00:50:59,890 --> 00:50:57,530
she woke up and so I was quite quite

1166
00:51:03,430 --> 00:50:59,900
amazed at that and it's it's a piece

1167
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:03,440
that I hold very dear to my musical my

1168
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:07,700
musical repertoire of recordings maybe

1169
00:51:18,010 --> 00:51:14,940
this simple it's based on two notes so

1170
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:18,020
but I think it's the most it's the most

1171
00:51:26,770 --> 00:51:21,230
elementary interval I think it's found

1172
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:26,780
in all cultures it's these notes I think

1173
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:28,730
that that particular interval is found

1174
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:30,140
in all cultures it's like you know

1175
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:32,720
Grover come here it's like mother's

1176
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,180
calling their kids doorbells I mean you

1177
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:36,800
hear that particular interval I think

1178
00:51:41,770 --> 00:51:38,930
it's it's a fourth - a first I think is

1179
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1197
00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:21,030
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1198
00:52:25,010 --> 00:52:23,070
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1199
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:25,020
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1200
00:52:29,090 --> 00:52:27,390
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1201
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:29,100
industry won't recognize the value of

1202
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:30,780
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1203
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:32,730
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[Music]

1206
00:53:03,040 --> 00:52:58,730
welcome back to the para cast the gold

1207
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:03,050
standard of paranormal radio and now

1208
00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:09,510
here's Jane Steinberg we're talking

1209
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,220
about dreams of the power cast with Gene

1210
00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:13,440
and Chris with our guests rosemary ellen

1211
00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:15,900
guiley rosemary tell us about the book

1212
00:53:20,210 --> 00:53:18,390
that you wrote on the subject my newest

1213
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:20,220
book is called rose mail and diaries

1214
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:22,890
pocket a dream guide and dictionary and

1215
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:27,000
I wanted a simple introductory guide for

1216
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:29,220
people to get started in dream work with

1217
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:31,950
an accompanying dream dictionary as well

1218
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:34,680
and there's more than 600 dream symbols

1219
00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:37,890
in the dictionary part and then the book

1220
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,590
also includes some tips for interpreting

1221
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:42,960
dreams some steps that will help people

1222
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:46,110
unlock the associations and meanings

1223
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:47,850
behind the elements and symbols and

1224
00:53:53,630 --> 00:53:50,070
dreams and also some tips for improving

1225
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,640
dream recall I didn't doing dream work

1226
00:53:58,460 --> 00:53:55,680
since I was a teenager and actually my

1227
00:54:02,120 --> 00:53:58,470
mother's precognitive dreams are what

1228
00:54:04,190 --> 00:54:02,130
got me interested in dreaming tell us

1229
00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:04,200
more about your mom my mom had a lot of

1230
00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:06,750
unusual paranormal experiences she had

1231
00:54:13,550 --> 00:54:10,020
visitations from angelic presences and

1232
00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:13,560
and also rather unpleasant bedroom

1233
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:15,030
invaders as well

1234
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:18,810
we had fairy experiences and in the

1235
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:20,760
house she especially had a lot of

1236
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:23,130
precognitive dreaming something that I

1237
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:25,650
have had occasionally but never to the

1238
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,900
degree that my mother experienced them

1239
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:29,760
and they were usually unpleasant dreams

1240
00:54:35,450 --> 00:54:32,730
for her dreams about people that she

1241
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:35,460
knew who were about to die and the

1242
00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:39,330
dreams were always accurate in terms of

1243
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:43,550
somebody dying it usually wouldn't be in

1244
00:54:48,980 --> 00:54:46,350
perhaps the manner that was portrayed in

1245
00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:48,990
the dream or she wouldn't have a sense

1246
00:54:55,130 --> 00:54:52,590
of timing but as you can imagine getting

1247
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:55,140
information like this usually within two

1248
00:54:59,330 --> 00:54:57,480
weeks of somebody's passing and knowing

1249
00:55:00,740 --> 00:54:59,340
that or at least feeling that there was

1250
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:00,750
nothing you could do about it

1251
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,810
we're very distressing to her but they

1252
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:06,000
got me interested in learning about

1253
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:07,960
dreams because when I was a teeny

1254
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:11,410
and hearing these dream accounts the

1255
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:14,290
idea that you could dream the future and

1256
00:55:19,170 --> 00:55:16,030
then it would be something that would

1257
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:19,180
come to pass absolutely fascinated me so

1258
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:21,960
I want to learn more about dreams and I

1259
00:55:28,010 --> 00:55:25,180
began reading books about them and

1260
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:28,020
paying attention to my own dreams I did

1261
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:30,310
experimentations where I would try and

1262
00:55:36,570 --> 00:55:33,520
project myself to distant places and

1263
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:36,580
dreams and come back with descriptions

1264
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:39,760
that I could validate in some way like

1265
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:42,670
visit somebody's house and describe

1266
00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:44,890
something about what I saw there that I

1267
00:55:50,730 --> 00:55:48,340
could validate with that person later I

1268
00:55:52,590 --> 00:55:50,740
tried to send messages to people and

1269
00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:52,600
dreams with some success and get

1270
00:55:57,690 --> 00:55:54,820
messages and dreams so all of these

1271
00:56:01,730 --> 00:55:57,700
things told me at a very young age that

1272
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:01,740
our dreams are magical mystical

1273
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:04,810
experiences far more than just

1274
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:07,540
reflecting back to us our concerns and

1275
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,150
anxieties which the majority of Dreams

1276
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,640
really do they deal with our emotional

1277
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:15,040
issues but there are other components to

1278
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:17,890
them that that transcend everyday

1279
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:19,000
experience

1280
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:21,340
so that's really what launched me on a

1281
00:56:27,450 --> 00:56:24,880
lifelong pursuit of understanding my

1282
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:27,460
dreams in my study of dreams I got

1283
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:28,750
involved in the International

1284
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:31,510
Association for the study of dreams I

1285
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:33,970
served on the board of that organization

1286
00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:35,890
for a while and I learned how to do

1287
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:37,560
what's called lay dream work

1288
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:39,850
facilitation I'm not a clinical

1289
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:42,370
psychologist sometimes it is advisable

1290
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:44,950
to do dream work with a psychologist

1291
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:46,390
especially if people are having

1292
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:48,940
troubling dreams repeating nightmares

1293
00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:51,280
and and things like that the average

1294
00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:53,590
person can do dream work quite easily

1295
00:57:00,030 --> 00:56:57,160
and very productively I have led dream

1296
00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:00,040
dream work groups and seminars for quite

1297
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,280
a few years helping other people

1298
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:04,960
understand their dreams and in the

1299
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:06,070
process it's been an enriching

1300
00:57:13,610 --> 00:57:09,040
experience for me because our dreams

1301
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:13,620
tell us about ourselves and enable us to

1302
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:18,010
often make better decisions to bring a

1303
00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:20,320
better balance into our lives to heal

1304
00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:21,460
things emotion

1305
00:57:26,839 --> 00:57:24,550
even physically Carl Jung documented

1306
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:26,849
that as well that dreams have a

1307
00:57:33,210 --> 00:57:29,890
tremendous healing capacity to them in

1308
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:33,220
terms of warning us about illnesses and

1309
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:36,609
diseases that are in very early stages

1310
00:57:43,609 --> 00:57:39,760
and even bringing miraculous healing

1311
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:43,619
energy into one's life there are

1312
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:46,089
documented cases in the dream literature

1313
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:49,750
where people who are in serious illness

1314
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:53,410
such as cancer have healing dreams where

1315
00:57:58,770 --> 00:57:55,270
they are literally healed in the dreams

1316
00:58:00,720 --> 00:57:58,780
and this is then documented on the

1317
00:58:02,819 --> 00:58:00,730
physical level well talk about the

1318
00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:02,829
documentation how does that come about

1319
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:04,869
and what are the results well for

1320
00:58:12,990 --> 00:58:08,609
example if someone had a tumor that

1321
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,000
needed to be operated on and prior to

1322
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:15,280
having the operation they would have a

1323
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,160
healing dream where they would feel

1324
00:58:23,579 --> 00:58:21,520
completely whole again and then they

1325
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:23,589
would be examined by the medical

1326
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:25,690
professionals and discover that the

1327
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:28,660
tumor might be greatly shrunk in size or

1328
00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:31,650
might be completely gone without

1329
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:34,540
explanation are we saying then it's a

1330
00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:37,480
case of mind over matter that if we rely

1331
00:58:42,059 --> 00:58:39,880
ourselves to overcome our illness

1332
00:58:45,569 --> 00:58:42,069
sometimes it works we really don't

1333
00:58:48,059 --> 00:58:45,579
understand the full ramifications and

1334
00:58:48,660 --> 00:58:48,069
components of what happens during these

1335
00:58:51,150 --> 00:58:48,670
dreams

1336
00:58:53,549 --> 00:58:51,160
the ancients considered the gods to

1337
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,559
intervene in the dreams and that the

1338
00:58:58,980 --> 00:58:56,079
gods would do the healing the Greeks and

1339
00:59:00,839 --> 00:58:58,990
the Romans had temples all over the

1340
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:00,849
classical world where people would make

1341
00:59:06,839 --> 00:59:05,049
pilgrimages and pray to the gods to be

1342
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:06,849
healed in their dreams of their various

1343
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:09,970
afflictions and many testimonials were

1344
00:59:17,789 --> 00:59:14,319
were left behind to that fact but these

1345
00:59:22,109 --> 00:59:17,799
dreams still happen in in modern times

1346
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:22,119
and it's difficult to separate out the

1347
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:24,910
components of these things and in my own

1348
00:59:33,809 --> 00:59:29,819
mind I'm sure there is some sort of a

1349
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:33,819
marshaling of one's inner forces perhaps

1350
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:35,290
one's own ability

1351
00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:37,630
he'll this brought in to bear on this

1352
00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:40,390
but there seems to be something external

1353
00:59:46,860 --> 00:59:43,380
that happens as well a connection with

1354
00:59:51,780 --> 00:59:46,870
some sort of healing force or power in

1355
00:59:56,580 --> 00:59:51,790
the cosmos that occurs during the dream

1356
01:00:01,650 --> 00:59:56,590
state and seems to be more powerful when

1357
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:01,660
it happens in the dream state Chris why

1358
01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:03,520
did you pick up on this you're another

1359
01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:07,600
dream guy I'm another dream guy actually

1360
01:00:14,310 --> 01:00:10,180
I wish I was a dream guy i I really

1361
01:00:17,250 --> 01:00:14,320
enjoy some of these dreamscapes that I

1362
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:17,260
find myself in my powers of recall

1363
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:19,870
aren't quite developed to the to the

1364
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:21,520
stage and in place where I'd like them

1365
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:24,880
to be but I have heard you know over the

1366
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:27,280
years and reading about miraculous

1367
01:00:32,820 --> 01:00:29,400
healings as well as Mary was mentioning

1368
01:00:34,770 --> 01:00:32,830
the kind of a self prescribed placebo

1369
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:34,780
effect where the the power of the mind

1370
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:38,230
and the power of spirit actually can

1371
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:40,890
manifest in very positive ways

1372
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,330
how about the opposite though rosemary

1373
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:45,520
I've also encountered stories where

1374
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:48,640
people have had a series of Rhian kurung

1375
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:51,550
dreams and then actually suffered

1376
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:55,090
adverse health effects from from not

1377
01:01:01,710 --> 01:00:58,450
getting a handle on why these negative

1378
01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:01,720
type dreams where we're occurring so the

1379
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:03,700
reverse can also be true as well I would

1380
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:06,760
imagine I'm not quite sure what you mean

1381
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:10,180
Chris you mean that we would become sick

1382
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:12,370
because of our dreams is that what

1383
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:16,090
you're saying well yeah become sick or

1384
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:18,730
also become you know mentally unstable

1385
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:23,470
as a result of real nightmare type

1386
01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:25,450
reoccurring nightmares where where

1387
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:27,160
people's health fail whether it's

1388
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:28,810
because they're afraid to go to sleep

1389
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:31,510
and it's a lack of sleep and and there

1390
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:33,430
may be some sort of chemical adverse

1391
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:35,440
chemical imbalances in the body as a

1392
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:37,120
result of that but but I have

1393
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:41,170
encountered here and there stories about

1394
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:43,450
people that have actually died in their

1395
01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:46,570
sleep after perhaps undergoing a series

1396
01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:48,040
of

1397
01:01:55,590 --> 01:01:52,600
fairly you know nasty nightmares or a

1398
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:55,600
sequence of nasty nightmares which kind

1399
01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:57,760
of harkens back to your comment that if

1400
01:02:01,650 --> 01:02:00,160
you do have reoccurring negative dreams

1401
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:01,660
it's probably good to go to a clinical

1402
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:03,490
psychologist and and get some

1403
01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:05,350
professional help in that regard but I

1404
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:07,300
would just imagine if you can heal

1405
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:08,890
yourself in a dream if you're if you're

1406
01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:11,370
unbalanced and and not healthy

1407
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emotionally or even physically you could

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actually have the opposite effect on

1409
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yourself well for example people who

1410
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have severe psychological trauma

1411
01:02:29,130 --> 01:02:26,250
post-traumatic stress syndrome or

1412
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deep-seated emotional issues perhaps

1413
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stemming back to childhood may be abuse

1414
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situations I'll tell you we have to get

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into more of that in a moment we have

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out at itunes rosemary ellen guiley

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01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:25,559
joining Gina and Chris on the para cast

1517
01:07:31,130 --> 01:07:29,400
now you start a discussion I guess again

1518
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:31,140
about frame interpretation would you

1519
01:07:35,329 --> 01:07:32,880
continue with that well we were talking

1520
01:07:39,230 --> 01:07:35,339
about what about negative dreamin where

1521
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:39,240
people might be very ill or their health

1522
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:41,970
could be adversely affected by nightmare

1523
01:07:49,329 --> 01:07:45,990
situations and yes there are people who

1524
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:49,339
have very deep emotional trauma issues

1525
01:07:55,249 --> 01:07:52,890
that experience a lot of very troubling

1526
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:55,259
dreams and nightmares and those really

1527
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:58,170
do need to be dealt with by trained

1528
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:01,039
medical help there may be some

1529
01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:03,930
physiological things going on as well in

1530
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:06,299
my work dealing with paranormal

1531
01:08:15,729 --> 01:08:11,940
situations I see some adverse paranormal

1532
01:08:18,110 --> 01:08:15,739
dreams from time to time that is people

1533
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:18,120
feel that they are being adversely

1534
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:22,290
affected by a psychic attack or by some

1535
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:24,630
sort of invasive presence coming into

1536
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:28,049
their dreams and disturbing their sleep

1537
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:31,020
creating unpleasant imagery and these

1538
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:33,540
sorts of dreams from a paranormal

1539
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:36,330
perspective from a spirit interference

1540
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:38,370
perspective have also been documented

1541
01:08:43,340 --> 01:08:41,219
since ancient times and I do believe

1542
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:43,350
that this sort of thing can take place

1543
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:45,600
at certain individuals who are skilled

1544
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:48,449
in psychic attacks can invade one's

1545
01:08:56,329 --> 01:08:53,040
dreams and cause unpleasant imagery that

1546
01:08:59,059 --> 01:08:56,339
can have a deteriorating health effect

1547
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:59,069
on an individual and that there are

1548
01:09:01,959 --> 01:09:00,719
entities out there who can do the same

1549
01:09:04,419 --> 01:09:01,969
thing another

1550
01:09:07,989 --> 01:09:04,429
subject and you and I in our last few

1551
01:09:10,419 --> 01:09:07,999
conversations have talked about your

1552
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:10,429
recent investigative work where you're

1553
01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:13,130
starting to find that your work with the

1554
01:09:20,169 --> 01:09:16,249
looking into the whole concept and

1555
01:09:23,289 --> 01:09:20,179
subject to the Djinn may this Djinn type

1556
01:09:24,459 --> 01:09:23,299
interpretation may have some legs do you

1557
01:09:26,529 --> 01:09:24,469
want to talk about that a little bit

1558
01:09:29,289 --> 01:09:26,539
because I know I know that this has been

1559
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:29,299
something that you've you've been really

1560
01:09:33,849 --> 01:09:32,329
studying now for a while and you know of

1561
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:33,859
course your last book was about - Jen

1562
01:09:39,099 --> 01:09:36,650
why don't you describe to our audience

1563
01:09:41,649 --> 01:09:39,109
like you did to me some of your thinking

1564
01:09:44,469 --> 01:09:41,659
in this this regard I think that the

1565
01:09:47,229 --> 01:09:44,479
Djinn are behind a lot of our paranormal

1566
01:09:50,499 --> 01:09:47,239
experiences and phenomena far more than

1567
01:09:52,749 --> 01:09:50,509
we might realize and that's one of the

1568
01:09:55,629 --> 01:09:52,759
things that I discussed a lot in the

1569
01:09:57,310 --> 01:09:55,639
vengeful Djinn I developed quite a few

1570
01:10:00,430 --> 01:09:57,320
chapters in the book related to

1571
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:00,440
comparing the Djinn to some of our other

1572
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:03,650
spirit and entity experiences and making

1573
01:10:09,549 --> 01:10:06,320
the case for why the Djinn might be

1574
01:10:13,540 --> 01:10:09,559
using certain guises in a shape-shifted

1575
01:10:16,359 --> 01:10:13,550
fashion as a way of interacting with and

1576
01:10:19,660 --> 01:10:16,369
even interfering with human beings well

1577
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:19,670
I've had an increasing number of reports

1578
01:10:26,469 --> 01:10:22,880
and cases involving what I would call

1579
01:10:29,649 --> 01:10:26,479
negative entity interference and some of

1580
01:10:32,109 --> 01:10:29,659
it just may be due to increased self

1581
01:10:34,540 --> 01:10:32,119
reporting that as people feeling freer

1582
01:10:36,819 --> 01:10:34,550
to come forward and talk about things

1583
01:10:39,370 --> 01:10:36,829
that in the past they would have been

1584
01:10:41,799 --> 01:10:39,380
too embarrassed to talk about however I

1585
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:41,809
do think that these cases are truly on

1586
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:44,530
the rise - and they often involve

1587
01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:48,289
disturbed dreaming and disturbed sleep a

1588
01:10:54,759 --> 01:10:51,409
lot of these entities who and the Djinn

1589
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:54,769
included who want to interfere with

1590
01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:57,199
people to cause problems their their

1591
01:11:01,629 --> 01:10:59,210
point of attack is when we are most

1592
01:11:04,450 --> 01:11:01,639
vulnerable and that's when we sleep and

1593
01:11:08,350 --> 01:11:04,460
also when we dream they can cause

1594
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:08,360
nightmares they can create a bedroom

1595
01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:11,510
visitation situations where unpleasant

1596
01:11:17,230 --> 01:11:14,630
shapes come into the bedroom and

1597
01:11:20,410 --> 01:11:17,240
become part of people's dreams or cause

1598
01:11:21,730 --> 01:11:20,420
people to awaken from unpleasant dreams

1599
01:11:23,770 --> 01:11:21,740
and sometimes people don't know if

1600
01:11:26,530 --> 01:11:23,780
they're dreaming or awake some of these

1601
01:11:29,050 --> 01:11:26,540
attacks in the past have been called hag

1602
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:29,060
attacks as well the unpleasant presence

1603
01:11:33,670 --> 01:11:30,050
in the bedroom

1604
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:33,680
and if people are subjected to this sort

1605
01:11:41,470 --> 01:11:37,130
of interference on an ongoing frequent

1606
01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:41,480
basis they become afraid to sleep they

1607
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:44,060
especially become afraid to dream this

1608
01:11:48,940 --> 01:11:47,510
can have a deteriorating effect on their

1609
01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:48,950
health because I'm not getting adequate

1610
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,350
rest they're psychologically disturbed

1611
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:53,600
and it starts spilling into other areas

1612
01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:56,960
of life what process do you bring to

1613
01:12:03,070 --> 01:11:58,760
bear on a case like this how do you

1614
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:03,080
separate a you know a person with some

1615
01:12:10,740 --> 01:12:06,310
sort of possible emotional issues or

1616
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:10,750
post-traumatic stress or where does one

1617
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:13,970
psychological causal element leave off

1618
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:16,640
and then something truly other in your

1619
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:18,800
interpretations begin how do you make

1620
01:12:23,890 --> 01:12:21,260
that determination it's often hard Trish

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I'll tell you and and if I do tell

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people that the first thing that they

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have to to look at our ordinary causes

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because if they've got domestic issues

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going on or other emotional issues

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they're going through a crisis or just

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kind of an upsetting period in life

1628
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dreaming can take on symbolism that may

1629
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seem to be outside interference but is

1630
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actually just more what I would call

1631
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ordinary dreaming so you have to look

1632
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for the natural ordinary explanations

1633
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first then there are other sort of

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hallmarks that indicate that perhaps

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there's spirit interference going on

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there are certain characteristics to the

1637
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dreams if they're combined with bedroom

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visitations poltergeist phenomena one

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must look for a point of origin to the

1640
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point I'm gonna ask you though rosemary

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is at first you've got to see a physical

1642
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side effect of the

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to make that determination what do you

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mean by a physical fight well

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poltergeist phenomena so poltergeists

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obviously things are moving around the

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house the traditional image of the

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poltergeist does that come out of a

1649
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dream experience it's part of a pattern

1650
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of phenomena it doesn't come out of the

1651
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dream experience but if people are

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having entity problems invasive spirit

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presence problems there are a host of

1654
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other things that are usually happening

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as well there's always a point of origin

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and if these things don't just start up

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for no reason sometimes people get a

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little carried away with their with the

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shows on TV and whatnot and they start

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interpreting things going on in their

1661
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own environment as spirit problems when

1662
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in fact it's it's not the case where you

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have to basically be aware that what we

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see on television is fantasy somebody

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writes a fiction story even the so

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called reality shows may be somewhat

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fictionalized they're heavily

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fictionalized in terms of how the

1669
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evidence is portrayed it's always I

1670
01:14:43,550 --> 01:14:40,530
don't wanna say always but in many cases

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it has to be sort of over dramatized in

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order to carry across the medium of

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television and to be entertaining and

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engaging to the audience so people can

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have kind of a skewed idea of what

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really goes on in the paranormal the

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endless search for ratings and for

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ratings absolutely but with TV I was

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gonna say that the TV that horrifies me

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the most usually is the political shows

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on Sunday morning but we won't get into

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that Reggie show very much a paranormal

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horror or some other kind of horror but

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we're not talking about anything

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horrible here or though I guess some

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things about it could be frightening

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dreaming I just want to assure you of

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that

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this is reality I think with rosemary

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sorry want to ask you something else

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here now one possible set of events that

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are sometimes connected with dreams are

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so-called UFO abductions do you regard

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them as real dream experiences a

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combination of the two what I regard

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them as alternate reality experiences I

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think that they do take place the

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abduction does take place

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the visitation takes place but it's not

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an necessarily a physical reality thing

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and this is why they often happen during

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sleep they might be recalled in a dream

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they might not be recalled til someone

1813
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goes through regression and you know

1814
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hypnotic regression the experience

1815
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starts in the physical reality and it

1816
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shifts into an alternate reality some of

1817
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the hallmarks of these cases and these

1818
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apply to entity visitations to jinn

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visitations when people feel that

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they've got a demonic presence in the

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room when shadow people come there are

1822
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things like buzzing and ringing sounds

1823
01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:24,640
they feel sometimes that electrical

1824
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pulses are going through their body or

1825
01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:28,990
they feel electrified in some way these

1826
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:32,280
are symptomatic of what seems to be a

1827
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dimensional shift going on the entities

1828
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have the ability to transcend our

1829
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physical laws any way they come through

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the walls they materialize in space they

1831
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D materialize in space in terms of the

1832
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abductions people feel that they are

1833
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transported out through non ordinary

1834
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means usually through floating or

1835
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levitation so immediately we begin to

1836
01:22:01,290 --> 01:21:58,870
shift into alternate reality which blurs

1837
01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:01,300
into the dreamscape because these things

1838
01:22:04,170 --> 01:22:03,670
are possible in the dreamscape I don't

1839
01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:04,180
think that they

1840
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imaginary experiences I think that their

1841
01:22:12,450 --> 01:22:09,850
real experiences and but they take place

1842
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:12,460
in this alternate reality that sort of

1843
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blends into our dreaming consciousness

1844
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:18,490
okay as a follow-up to that in some

1845
01:22:23,220 --> 01:22:20,770
cases of UFO abductions people report

1846
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being operated on and sometimes they

1847
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find little objects and things embedded

1848
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in their feet or elsewhere is that just

1849
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:29,860
maybe an accident they stepped into

1850
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:32,290
something is that necessarily connected

1851
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:34,990
with this event is the event triggered

1852
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by some kind of thing or event in our

1853
01:22:44,490 --> 01:22:41,230
own physical reality with any dream you

1854
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,500
always have to look at whether or not it

1855
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has a connection is something going on

1856
01:22:53,580 --> 01:22:49,890
in waking life and could be symbolic

1857
01:22:55,290 --> 01:22:53,590
there are lots of ET dreams including

1858
01:22:58,650 --> 01:22:55,300
seeing lights in the sky or being

1859
01:23:00,780 --> 01:22:58,660
visited by alien beings or beings that

1860
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you think are extraterrestrials that are

1861
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:03,430
more symbolic they're speaking on a

1862
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:05,890
symbolic level rather than a literal

1863
01:23:10,020 --> 01:23:07,990
level it's just like all young talking

1864
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:10,030
about the collective unconscious and the

1865
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possible connection with UFOs okay Carl

1866
01:23:22,110 --> 01:23:18,850
Jung had this book about UFOs in the

1867
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:22,120
1950s yes and part of the suggestion

1868
01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:25,510
here related to possible collective

1869
01:23:32,610 --> 01:23:29,500
unconscious manifestations so are some

1870
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:32,620
UFOs indications of a collective

1871
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:35,110
unconscious I think they are they are

1872
01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:38,290
dream symbols rather than literal things

1873
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:41,940
in dreams the symbols that that dominate

1874
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:46,000
human dreaming change over time as our

1875
01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:49,450
culture changes and the orientation of

1876
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:52,450
our thinking changes we are oriented

1877
01:23:58,800 --> 01:23:56,290
toward the unknown of outer space where

1878
01:24:00,690 --> 01:23:58,810
our ancestors were not only entered that

1879
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:00,700
way our ancestors were oriented to the

1880
01:24:11,340 --> 01:24:06,970
physical world too two monsters in the

1881
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:11,350
world to the horrors of the graves and a

1882
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:14,290
lot of our fears about the unknown and

1883
01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:18,010
the unexplored are are symbolized by

1884
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:20,350
outer space and beans that might come

1885
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:22,530
from outer space so in that respect yes

1886
01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:26,710
UFOs and ETS can be highly symbolic but

1887
01:24:32,730 --> 01:24:30,600
well okay well I wanted to ask you then

1888
01:24:34,530 --> 01:24:32,740
there's an implication here that the

1889
01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:34,540
actual physical sightings may in some

1890
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:38,500
respects be dream lib related in some

1891
01:24:46,230 --> 01:24:43,510
ways I'm not sure I understand okay that

1892
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:46,240
basically we're not seeing ET up there

1893
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:49,600
we're seeing a projection of mind

1894
01:24:58,050 --> 01:24:53,110
projection something that is not a real

1895
01:24:59,730 --> 01:24:58,060
aircraft physically up there I'm not

1896
01:25:02,040 --> 01:24:59,740
sure what you're asking me

1897
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:02,050
okay all right let me try another way

1898
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:04,750
here okay we see UFO in the sky and

1899
01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:08,170
you're talking of course you're talking

1900
01:25:14,130 --> 01:25:11,400
about symbolisms and things here okay

1901
01:25:16,230 --> 01:25:14,140
okay we start with symbolism we start

1902
01:25:18,270 --> 01:25:16,240
with UFOs in the sky are we seeing

1903
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:18,280
physical craft up there are we seeing

1904
01:25:22,860 --> 01:25:20,110
something that represents that symbolism

1905
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:22,870
you mean an awakened consciousness sure

1906
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:25,500
what we think is waking consciousness

1907
01:25:34,710 --> 01:25:29,800
maybe we took a nap I don't know I think

1908
01:25:37,980 --> 01:25:34,720
that things can bleed through dimensions

1909
01:25:40,010 --> 01:25:37,990
but as you know where's the physical

1910
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:40,020
evidence we never seem to have any

1911
01:25:45,630 --> 01:25:43,360
physical evidence and you know some big

1912
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:45,640
reports of physical evidence that always

1913
01:25:52,220 --> 01:25:49,330
seems to disappear somewhere so I these

1914
01:25:54,540 --> 01:25:52,230
experiences are I think largely

1915
01:25:56,820 --> 01:25:54,550
interdimensional bleeders I don't think

1916
01:25:59,490 --> 01:25:56,830
that were having illusions when we have

1917
01:26:01,530 --> 01:25:59,500
the experiences but they're not entirely

1918
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:01,540
of this dimension and the same applies

1919
01:26:06,570 --> 01:26:03,450
to our encounters with mysterious

1920
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:06,580
creatures we don't have any carcasses

1921
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:11,370
bones you know physical evidence that

1922
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,270
can be validated and proved but we have

1923
01:26:22,820 --> 01:26:18,400
all of these subjective eyewitness

1924
01:26:25,650 --> 01:26:22,830
accounts and to me they're indicative of

1925
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:25,660
the existence of parallel dimensions

1926
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,130
close to ours

1927
01:26:31,979 --> 01:26:29,920
and the openings that occur if you're in

1928
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the right place at the right time there

1929
01:26:36,510 --> 01:26:33,940
in one of these hot zone portal areas

1930
01:26:38,459 --> 01:26:36,520
and now and we have the bleed through

1931
01:26:41,250 --> 01:26:38,469
experiences they are real I don't think

1932
01:26:44,010 --> 01:26:41,260
they're imaginary okay so then how do we

1933
01:26:46,650 --> 01:26:44,020
quantify that can we can we quantify the

1934
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:46,660
ability to sometimes see something that

1935
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:50,890
is as they say spilling through we're

1936
01:26:54,330 --> 01:26:52,450
getting a visualization of something

1937
01:26:57,450 --> 01:26:54,340
happening in another reality another

1938
01:27:00,120 --> 01:26:57,460
time whatever it's very hard to quantify

1939
01:27:02,570 --> 01:27:00,130
because it can't be summoned up on

1940
01:27:05,780 --> 01:27:02,580
demand we don't seem to have the ability

1941
01:27:09,410 --> 01:27:05,790
to open up these interdimensional

1942
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:09,420
windows and doors on demand to have

1943
01:27:17,660 --> 01:27:13,690
replicable experiences however when you

1944
01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:17,670
take the literature of experiences and

1945
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:20,800
do cross comparisons there are patterns

1946
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:23,410
that emerge that people describe some of

1947
01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:26,400
the same things or in similar ways the

1948
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elements of the experiences the

1949
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circumstances of the experiences have

1950
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some common characteristics so there do

1951
01:27:38,459 --> 01:27:36,430
seem to be core experiences that human

1952
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:38,469
beings have but the details the

1953
01:27:46,740 --> 01:27:43,810
trappings shift over time you can a

1954
01:27:49,770 --> 01:27:46,750
person can have a remarkable experience

1955
01:27:52,050 --> 01:27:49,780
in a known hot zone area and can return

1956
01:27:54,330 --> 01:27:52,060
to that hot zone and never have that

1957
01:27:56,910 --> 01:27:54,340
experience again or if they have an

1958
01:27:59,010 --> 01:27:56,920
experience it won't be the same so this

1959
01:28:00,959 --> 01:27:59,020
becomes very problematic of course for

1960
01:28:03,330 --> 01:28:00,969
science that take any of this seriously

1961
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:03,340
it's it's considered to be so subjective

1962
01:28:08,670 --> 01:28:05,410
that it can't be given serious

1963
01:28:10,650 --> 01:28:08,680
consideration doesn't make it very easy

1964
01:28:12,780 --> 01:28:10,660
to get a handle on this because

1965
01:28:14,729 --> 01:28:12,790
obviously scientists will say well if I

1966
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:14,739
can see it if I can touch it if I can't

1967
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:16,930
measure it somehow even if they're

1968
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,210
measuring for example the possible

1969
01:28:23,190 --> 01:28:21,520
presence of planets and other star

1970
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:23,200
systems is you really can't directly see

1971
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:25,900
but you see the interaction of them well

1972
01:28:31,050 --> 01:28:28,560
we can't do that can't be possibly real

1973
01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:31,060
well that's certainly the approach that

1974
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:34,239
science would take but the people who

1975
01:28:39,570 --> 01:28:37,330
have the experiences do not feel that

1976
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:39,580
they've imagined anything and I don't

1977
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:42,100
think they have either because the

1978
01:28:46,540 --> 01:28:43,840
experiences have been too consistent

1979
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:46,550
over the course of human history

1980
01:28:52,150 --> 01:28:50,210
we have these as I mentioned before

1981
01:28:55,810 --> 01:28:52,160
these core experiences these

1982
01:28:58,690 --> 01:28:55,820
interactions with these elements and

1983
01:29:00,910 --> 01:28:58,700
entities that are not of our physical

1984
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:00,920
world but intrude on our physical world

1985
01:29:08,410 --> 01:29:06,530
and it indicates that we've to me that

1986
01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:08,420
we've been having some sort of

1987
01:29:13,090 --> 01:29:11,510
interaction which explain which we

1988
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:13,100
explain through our mythology and our

1989
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:17,930
folklore that there are you know other

1990
01:29:24,010 --> 01:29:20,960
beings and entities that have an

1991
01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:24,020
interest in us and who are dealing with

1992
01:29:27,460 --> 01:29:25,790
us I'd say what we have to deal with

1993
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this if you have a comment or question

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about the show write us news of the para

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2103
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:53,990
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2104
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2105
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:04,260
believe me with gene and Chris you're in

2106
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:05,760
the power cast with rosemary ellen

2107
01:34:11,180 --> 01:34:07,890
guiley starting off with dream

2108
01:34:15,260 --> 01:34:11,190
experiences relating that to what might

2109
01:34:17,330 --> 01:34:15,270
be perceived as physical phenomena ufos

2110
01:34:20,330 --> 01:34:17,340
things like that possible UFO abductions

2111
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:20,340
Chris we had a few questions in the

2112
01:34:24,650 --> 01:34:22,170
forums maybe let's get to those now

2113
01:34:27,380 --> 01:34:24,660
since we're on this subject of your

2114
01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:27,390
dream research rosemary we do have a

2115
01:34:31,130 --> 01:34:29,070
couple of interesting questions here

2116
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:31,140
from our listeners this one comes from a

2117
01:34:36,590 --> 01:34:33,750
new listener from Germany named Poulter

2118
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:36,600
worst I'm not sure if he's related to

2119
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:42,320
the the Geist or the brought but he says

2120
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:45,210
in your dream week research did you come

2121
01:34:50,050 --> 01:34:47,040
across dreams in which deceased people

2122
01:34:53,480 --> 01:34:50,060
announced their rebirth in a

2123
01:34:55,510 --> 01:34:53,490
soon-to-be-born child if so did you

2124
01:34:58,820 --> 01:34:55,520
follow up on that to see if the child

2125
01:35:00,620 --> 01:34:58,830
showed up and had any signs reminiscent

2126
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:00,630
of that diseased person a few years

2127
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:02,970
later he goes on to say I used to think

2128
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:04,650
dreams were just senseless brain chatter

2129
01:35:08,770 --> 01:35:07,110
but after recent observations would seem

2130
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:08,780
to indicate a case of reincarnation

2131
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:11,520
which do include such a dream I'm not

2132
01:35:16,190 --> 01:35:14,250
that sure anymore has does this ring

2133
01:35:19,340 --> 01:35:16,200
about doesn't to me I don't think I've

2134
01:35:21,710 --> 01:35:19,350
ever heard one of person predicting

2135
01:35:23,060 --> 01:35:21,720
their own reincarnation in fact it does

2136
01:35:26,180 --> 01:35:23,070
happened Chris these are called

2137
01:35:28,130 --> 01:35:26,190
announcing dreams and they're well

2138
01:35:30,350 --> 01:35:28,140
documented in the reincarnation

2139
01:35:31,790 --> 01:35:30,360
literature and I do talk about them in

2140
01:35:34,450 --> 01:35:31,800
another book I've written called soul

2141
01:35:39,460 --> 01:35:34,460
journeys which deals with reincarnation

2142
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:39,470
they're more prominent in other cultures

2143
01:35:45,950 --> 01:35:41,910
there are Native Americans for example

2144
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:45,960
in the North West and West Coast Canada

2145
01:35:52,010 --> 01:35:48,930
and the United States where it's

2146
01:35:54,980 --> 01:35:52,020
considered customary for souls to

2147
01:35:58,580 --> 01:35:54,990
announce their rebirth in fact families

2148
01:36:02,630 --> 01:35:58,590
expect to have dreams where so-and-so

2149
01:36:03,780 --> 01:36:02,640
who died some years ago is now going to

2150
01:36:06,990 --> 01:36:03,790
be reborn

2151
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:07,000
and that person the deceased person will

2152
01:36:13,020 --> 01:36:09,730
come in a dream and announce himself or

2153
01:36:15,780 --> 01:36:13,030
herself to a couple who the wife is

2154
01:36:20,220 --> 01:36:15,790
pregnant and going to be giving birth

2155
01:36:22,910 --> 01:36:20,230
and Ian Stevenson documented a lot of

2156
01:36:27,480 --> 01:36:22,920
these and his extensive reincarnation

2157
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:27,490
literature I'm not aware of what might

2158
01:36:32,910 --> 01:36:30,490
be documented in what you would call the

2159
01:36:34,980 --> 01:36:32,920
contemporary Western culture literature

2160
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:34,990
because we just don't pay that much

2161
01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:37,930
attention to reincarnation as other

2162
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:41,140
cultures do there have been some studies

2163
01:36:47,370 --> 01:36:44,370
of Western children who seem to have

2164
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:47,380
market past-life recall when they're

2165
01:36:53,940 --> 01:36:51,250
young and usually the strongest memories

2166
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:53,950
are between ages of three and eight the

2167
01:36:59,580 --> 01:36:55,810
children will make comments like you

2168
01:37:01,410 --> 01:36:59,590
know in my when I was the mommy or you

2169
01:37:05,220 --> 01:37:01,420
know when I lived in such-and-such a

2170
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:05,230
place or when you were my my daughter

2171
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:08,170
you know that sort of thing but we don't

2172
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:09,730
seem to have the phenomenon of

2173
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:12,610
announcing dreams I think they have to

2174
01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:16,210
be nurtured by culture to be prominent

2175
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:20,710
yeah I know in the Tibetan culture the

2176
01:37:27,780 --> 01:37:23,730
reincarnation of particular lineages I

2177
01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:27,790
now do seem to recall that these these

2178
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:30,820
have been announced and the famous one

2179
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:32,260
they made a movie out of where the

2180
01:37:35,580 --> 01:37:33,850
Ripper Shay said he was going to be born

2181
01:37:37,410 --> 01:37:35,590
on and such as such a day and they

2182
01:37:39,980 --> 01:37:37,420
actually located the child in Seattle

2183
01:37:41,940 --> 01:37:39,990
Washington if I remember correctly

2184
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:41,950
interesting I think that's not that's an

2185
01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:43,870
area that I'd like to to look into more

2186
01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:46,300
I have another question from sand and

2187
01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:48,400
fire who was one of our longtime posters

2188
01:37:53,490 --> 01:37:51,400
since 2009 and he says in all your vast

2189
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:53,500
research conducted through the years do

2190
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:55,210
you see the paranormal in general

2191
01:37:59,610 --> 01:37:57,250
regardless of the phenomenon such as

2192
01:38:02,040 --> 01:37:59,620
UFOs or ghosts as having more of a

2193
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:02,050
specific cause such as the Djinn or some

2194
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:04,930
other supernatural entity he says I

2195
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:06,880
asked because my wife who considers

2196
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:09,010
herself a sensitive believes that the

2197
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:10,930
ghosts and spirits her and I generally

2198
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:13,570
hunt maybe something more generalized

2199
01:38:17,679 --> 01:38:16,810
that actually could indeed explain all

2200
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:17,689
paranormal

2201
01:38:22,089 --> 01:38:20,239
and as a direct result of my wife's

2202
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:22,099
changing paradigm I've started looking

2203
01:38:26,830 --> 01:38:24,530
more into the UFO field for some clues

2204
01:38:28,989 --> 01:38:26,840
as to what we experienced in ghosts and

2205
01:38:30,339 --> 01:38:28,999
haunting fields with your latest book

2206
01:38:32,020 --> 01:38:30,349
regarding the Djinn you seem to be

2207
01:38:34,779 --> 01:38:32,030
swaying more towards a theory of

2208
01:38:37,330 --> 01:38:34,789
everything Toa as he says in which the

2209
01:38:40,029 --> 01:38:37,340
sourcing for most of what we could call

2210
01:38:42,339 --> 01:38:40,039
unexplained may be whittled down to a

2211
01:38:44,949 --> 01:38:42,349
singular cause any thoughts you could

2212
01:38:46,659 --> 01:38:44,959
kind of we're just barely addressing

2213
01:38:50,500 --> 01:38:46,669
that but now we're going to put you on

2214
01:38:53,469 --> 01:38:50,510
the spot I am increasingly thinking that

2215
01:38:59,770 --> 01:38:53,479
the Djinn are behind just about

2216
01:39:01,839 --> 01:38:59,780
everything and this is probably not a

2217
01:39:03,489 --> 01:39:01,849
satisfactory explanation to a lot of

2218
01:39:05,500 --> 01:39:03,499
people the paranormal who want to

2219
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:05,510
compartmentalize things and even to

2220
01:39:09,069 --> 01:39:07,010
ufologists who are looking for

2221
01:39:11,830 --> 01:39:09,079
extraterrestrials and I don't deny the

2222
01:39:16,179 --> 01:39:11,840
existence of extraterrestrials or that

2223
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:16,189
some other planetary beings have visited

2224
01:39:24,370 --> 01:39:21,050
the planet our planet however I think

2225
01:39:26,290 --> 01:39:24,380
that a lot of our ety experiences what

2226
01:39:27,790 --> 01:39:26,300
we're calling ET they're really ultra

2227
01:39:30,939 --> 01:39:27,800
terrestrials they're beings from another

2228
01:39:32,709 --> 01:39:30,949
dimension not another planet more likely

2229
01:39:35,290 --> 01:39:32,719
than not the jinn could be behind them

2230
01:39:40,089 --> 01:39:35,300
the jinn who are masterful shapeshifters

2231
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:40,099
have a reason to interact with with

2232
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:44,510
people and might be coming in a variety

2233
01:39:52,569 --> 01:39:48,610
of ways to have different purposes

2234
01:39:54,069 --> 01:39:52,579
different agendas there is various human

2235
01:39:57,459 --> 01:39:54,079
beings they have different temperaments

2236
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:57,469
just like human beings but in general

2237
01:40:04,330 --> 01:40:01,280
there is documentation and their

2238
01:40:06,429 --> 01:40:04,340
mythology and folklore that the jinn

2239
01:40:08,020 --> 01:40:06,439
have a reason for wanting to interact

2240
01:40:10,060 --> 01:40:08,030
with us that is they want the earth back

2241
01:40:11,739 --> 01:40:10,070
because they consider it theirs to begin

2242
01:40:14,409 --> 01:40:11,749
with in the beginning there were angels

2243
01:40:16,839 --> 01:40:14,419
and jinn human beings came along the

2244
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:16,849
jinn were out humans were in and some of

2245
01:40:24,370 --> 01:40:20,570
them wants a place back and so we have

2246
01:40:27,009 --> 01:40:24,380
all these different forms that from the

2247
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:27,019
standpoint of their origins their

2248
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,449
motivations their characteristics they

2249
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:31,280
could be doing all of those things

2250
01:40:39,730 --> 01:40:33,650
so I'm increasingly looking at the gin

2251
01:40:42,130 --> 01:40:39,740
as the the cause behind just about all

2252
01:40:43,480 --> 01:40:42,140
of our paranormal experiences haven't

2253
01:40:46,090 --> 01:40:43,490
done a lot of ghost hunting over the

2254
01:40:49,570 --> 01:40:46,100
years hundreds and hundreds of places

2255
01:40:52,810 --> 01:40:49,580
and cases I consider most ghost

2256
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:52,820
phenomena to be residual that is it

2257
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:54,110
doesn't really have a locus of

2258
01:40:59,310 --> 01:40:56,510
intelligence to it it's leftover stuff

2259
01:41:01,990 --> 01:40:59,320
that clings to the psychic space and

2260
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:02,000
when you start getting into more active

2261
01:41:09,940 --> 01:41:06,530
presences where a place seems to have an

2262
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:09,950
entity or entities that recognize human

2263
01:41:13,420 --> 01:41:11,600
beings and interact with them in very

2264
01:41:14,650 --> 01:41:13,430
deliberate ways you're not dealing with

2265
01:41:16,180 --> 01:41:14,660
ghosts anymore you're dealing with

2266
01:41:19,620 --> 01:41:16,190
something else and that's probably the

2267
01:41:22,450 --> 01:41:19,630
Jim well there you have it sand in fire

2268
01:41:25,690 --> 01:41:22,460
inquiring minds just got a great a good

2269
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:25,700
answer I I've noticed commonalities too

2270
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:28,310
rosemary especially when there seems to

2271
01:41:34,090 --> 01:41:30,110
be some sort of self determined the

2272
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:34,100
energy at work the Djinn I think is a is

2273
01:41:38,290 --> 01:41:35,840
a pretty good place to start to try to

2274
01:41:40,330 --> 01:41:38,300
try to get to the bottom out of course

2275
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:40,340
there is that tricks Jewish element oh I

2276
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:42,770
said the word Jane there is that

2277
01:41:47,650 --> 01:41:44,570
trickster ish element that's involved in

2278
01:41:50,110 --> 01:41:47,660
a lot of these entity cases so I think

2279
01:41:52,300 --> 01:41:50,120
the jury's gonna be out in some people's

2280
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:52,310
mind but you and I are thinking kind of

2281
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,770
along the same lines there rosemary

2282
01:41:59,110 --> 01:41:56,480
here's another one for you from dine son

2283
01:42:01,360 --> 01:41:59,120
who's won again a long time poster in

2284
01:42:04,900 --> 01:42:01,370
fact he's been posting now almost

2285
01:42:06,670 --> 01:42:04,910
exactly four years he says if the

2286
01:42:10,090 --> 01:42:06,680
conversation comes to it is there a way

2287
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:10,100
to classify a small hooded bean for

2288
01:42:16,210 --> 01:42:11,600
reference the creatures in Star Wars

2289
01:42:17,980 --> 01:42:16,220
called Jawas come to mind that's

2290
01:42:20,380 --> 01:42:17,990
interesting I've had a couple of cases

2291
01:42:22,510 --> 01:42:20,390
like that that people see diminutive

2292
01:42:24,690 --> 01:42:22,520
hooded forms is that something fairly

2293
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:24,700
common and how would you classify them

2294
01:42:31,660 --> 01:42:29,330
we have the little black hooded things

2295
01:42:34,510 --> 01:42:31,670
with the red eyes that often accompany

2296
01:42:37,330 --> 01:42:34,520
other kinds of entities they usually

2297
01:42:40,180 --> 01:42:37,340
come in multiples of two or three or

2298
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,190
maybe even four or five they are often

2299
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:43,040
bedroom invaders the black-eyed kids

2300
01:42:48,420 --> 01:42:44,570
would be a

2301
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:48,430
variation of that demonic-looking

2302
01:42:54,430 --> 01:42:52,250
children who want to gain somebody's

2303
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:54,440
trust and access to an environment and

2304
01:43:01,890 --> 01:42:57,530
then reveal themselves with saw demonic

2305
01:43:05,730 --> 01:43:01,900
teeth and and they have these alien like

2306
01:43:10,270 --> 01:43:05,740
solid black eyes and demonic eyes and

2307
01:43:13,390 --> 01:43:10,280
the Jawa to me their jinns I think they

2308
01:43:16,450 --> 01:43:13,400
were inspired by the jinn and these

2309
01:43:19,570 --> 01:43:16,460
little hooded entities could be forms of

2310
01:43:21,550 --> 01:43:19,580
jinn as well baby jinn that are they've

2311
01:43:24,190 --> 01:43:21,560
got bad attitudes and tend to hang out

2312
01:43:39,460 --> 01:43:24,200
and like little gangs like trooping

2313
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:39,470
fairies I said it again the T word let

2314
01:43:44,430 --> 01:43:40,970
me tell you I had an interesting case a

2315
01:43:47,770 --> 01:43:44,440
world-famous very very well-respected

2316
01:43:49,900 --> 01:43:47,780
studio musician from the golden age of

2317
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:49,910
television with over 600 films and TV

2318
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:52,130
shows to his credit you know umpteenth

2319
01:43:57,480 --> 01:43:54,170
degree in black belt very spiritual guy

2320
01:43:59,710 --> 01:43:57,490
he's in his studio recording one day and

2321
01:44:01,840 --> 01:43:59,720
he was very embarrassed when he told me

2322
01:44:04,990 --> 01:44:01,850
that's but he says I just I just knew

2323
01:44:06,430 --> 01:44:05,000
you would I had to tell you if you have

2324
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:06,440
a comment or question about the show

2325
01:44:12,670 --> 01:44:08,810
write us news if the para cast calm

2326
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:12,680
that's news at the para cast calm we'll

2327
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:14,810
find out more about the studio musician

2328
01:44:19,740 --> 01:44:17,210
and lots more with gene and Chris you're

2329
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:19,750
in the para cast

2330
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:30,570
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2331
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:33,760
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2332
01:44:40,230 --> 01:44:38,470
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2333
01:44:42,630 --> 01:44:40,240
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2334
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:42,640
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2335
01:44:47,490 --> 01:44:45,280
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2336
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2338
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2339
01:44:55,290 --> 01:44:53,110
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2340
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2341
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2342
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2344
01:45:06,060 --> 01:45:04,090
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2345
01:45:08,460 --> 01:45:06,070
listening to GC and live.com again

2346
01:45:10,530 --> 01:45:08,470
that's juicy and live.com we the people

2347
01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:10,540
grow cotton wheat fabric engraving can

2348
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:12,190
bed strips and fibers to protect from

2349
01:45:15,540 --> 01:45:13,810
counterfeit than carding to a private

2350
01:45:17,340 --> 01:45:15,550
bank having a led back at interest

2351
01:45:19,170 --> 01:45:17,350
forcing taxes to surfaced at this

2352
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:19,180
capitalism or was Jefferson correct when

2353
01:45:22,260 --> 01:45:20,650
stating a central bank issuing the

2354
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:22,270
public currency is a greater menace to

2355
01:45:25,170 --> 01:45:23,410
the liberties of the people than a

2356
01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:25,180
standing army Ted Anderson I'm placing a

2357
01:45:28,350 --> 01:45:26,320
free silver dollar in a book that

2358
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:28,360
explains our monetary system call for

2359
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:31,600
your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time to

2360
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:34,690
understand the system call 866 to 237

2361
01:45:44,169 --> 01:45:38,170
that's 800 686 to 237

2362
01:45:52,209 --> 01:45:47,869
welcome back to the para cast the gold

2363
01:45:59,479 --> 01:45:52,219
standard of paranormal radio and now

2364
01:46:01,429 --> 01:45:59,489
here's Jane Steinberg so who might be

2365
01:46:03,619 --> 01:46:01,439
that studio musician longtime

2366
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:03,629
professional studio musician that Chris

2367
01:46:07,429 --> 01:46:05,280
O'Brien's talking about with Jean and

2368
01:46:10,189 --> 01:46:07,439
Chris on the para cast would you

2369
01:46:11,610 --> 01:46:10,199
identify the person well he asked me not

2370
01:46:13,429 --> 01:46:11,620
to but

2371
01:46:15,739 --> 01:46:13,439
[Music]

2372
01:46:18,969 --> 01:46:15,749
let's see how would I do this artfully

2373
01:46:22,549 --> 01:46:18,979
there's a famous b-movie that features

2374
01:46:24,529 --> 01:46:22,559
vegetables and them attacking he was the

2375
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:24,539
one that did the film score for that so

2376
01:46:28,219 --> 01:46:26,729
there's a little clue for y'all anyway

2377
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:28,229
he was sitting there in his studio

2378
01:46:32,569 --> 01:46:30,449
recording any notice motion out of this

2379
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:32,579
corner of his I looked over and a group

2380
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:35,130
of six or seven if I remember small

2381
01:46:41,449 --> 01:46:38,130
hooded you know cloaked trooping fairies

2382
01:46:44,270 --> 01:46:41,459
for lack of a better term came through

2383
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:44,280
his studio door that was closed trooped

2384
01:46:49,310 --> 01:46:47,010
right across the studio within inches of

2385
01:46:50,989 --> 01:46:49,320
him and went through the wall and before

2386
01:46:53,149 --> 01:46:50,999
the last one went through the wall it

2387
01:46:55,489 --> 01:46:53,159
turned around and gave him a really

2388
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:55,499
dirty nasty look and he said the

2389
01:46:59,779 --> 01:46:57,570
weirdest thing about it is they all look

2390
01:47:04,819 --> 01:46:59,789
like they were dressed in Keystone cop

2391
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:04,829
hats I've heard of this experience and I

2392
01:47:09,979 --> 01:47:06,840
can't think of the musicians name but

2393
01:47:11,509 --> 01:47:09,989
it's ringing a bell with me and yeah

2394
01:47:15,709 --> 01:47:11,519
here again we have this trickster

2395
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:15,719
element to it well the Djinn have if

2396
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:17,010
you're going to compare the Djinn to

2397
01:47:20,899 --> 01:47:19,289
other entities in terms of like what are

2398
01:47:23,390 --> 01:47:20,909
the dominant characteristics that they

2399
01:47:25,759 --> 01:47:23,400
share and are the same the Djinn have

2400
01:47:27,649 --> 01:47:25,769
the closest connection with fairies and

2401
01:47:29,089 --> 01:47:27,659
this association really has been

2402
01:47:31,549 --> 01:47:29,099
recognized for a very long time

2403
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:31,559
especially in the Middle East where most

2404
01:47:37,609 --> 01:47:34,800
of the lore of the Djinn originates and

2405
01:47:39,979 --> 01:47:37,619
the behavior of fairies mirrors the

2406
01:47:43,959 --> 01:47:39,989
characteristics of the jinn and vice

2407
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:43,969
versa in the ventral jinn I had the

2408
01:47:52,699 --> 01:47:47,689
strongest chapter of associations I

2409
01:47:55,219 --> 01:47:52,709
documented in some detail show how the

2410
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:55,229
jinn and the fairies are the same well

2411
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:57,530
let's take that out a step further

2412
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:01,199
Jacques Vallee Tomas Bullard John Mack

2413
01:48:06,589 --> 01:48:04,050
talking decades ago about the

2414
01:48:09,279 --> 01:48:06,599
similarities between ETS and fairies

2415
01:48:12,919 --> 01:48:09,289
this gets down to a very fundamental

2416
01:48:17,390 --> 01:48:12,929
problem in the paranormal people do not

2417
01:48:21,379 --> 01:48:17,400
research cross-discipline more and

2418
01:48:22,759 --> 01:48:21,389
mythology ufologist stick to ufology the

2419
01:48:25,879 --> 01:48:22,769
paranormal people stick to the

2420
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paranormal the cryptids people stick to

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cryptozoology

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and there's all this data that bleeds

2423
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from one area to another that takes

2424
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things into a whole different arena and

2425
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I think it's so important to be aware of

2426
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these things shadow people when I

2427
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started researching shadow people about

2428
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five or six years ago I found a big

2429
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connection between the et experiencers

2430
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and the shadow people experiences but

2431
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when I went into the UFO community to

2432
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ask the researchers what they knew about

2433
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shadow people I found that either they

2434
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didn't know anything or yes you know it

2435
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did show up a lot the the shadow person

2436
01:49:12,410 --> 01:49:11,310
experience but it wasn't important it

2437
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didn't have anything to do with

2438
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abductions and it does it does because

2439
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many abductees are shadow people

2440
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experiences and shadow people seem to be

2441
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another form of the Djinn so there are

2442
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all these cross connections going on and

2443
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we don't have enough researchers really

2444
01:49:37,010 --> 01:49:34,070
following up on them from that from that

2445
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big-picture perspective and I think it's

2446
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really important that we start looking

2447
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at these things cross platform if you

2448
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will and really start taking the

2449
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blinders off and you know being a little

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bit more creative and open-minded with

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our thinking I think it's really

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important and you bring up a really good

2453
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point there one thing that I've noticed

2454
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is we've seemed to have a lot of

2455
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programs that are coming out that deal

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with various aspects of the paranormal

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both in a reality sense and in a

2458
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fictional sense and we do have a

2459
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question here from a longtime poster

2460
01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:08,940
Blowfish and he says rosemary what are

2461
01:50:13,550 --> 01:50:11,280
your thoughts on the current vampire TV

2462
01:50:15,860 --> 01:50:13,560
movies such as True Blood Twilight etc

2463
01:50:18,290 --> 01:50:15,870
and any so-called real encounters from

2464
01:50:20,780 --> 01:50:18,300
eyewitnesses is there some sort of

2465
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cultural connection there or great

2466
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entertainment very little connection to

2467
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:26,490
what are the dominant documented real

2468
01:50:32,660 --> 01:50:29,280
experiences Twilight is so far out there

2469
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:32,670
in fantasy that I it's hard to take any

2470
01:50:38,020 --> 01:50:35,850
of those vampires seriously there from

2471
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:38,030
my perspective very anemic vampires

2472
01:50:40,970 --> 01:50:40,050
compared to the entities that our

2473
01:50:44,540 --> 01:50:40,980
ancestors

2474
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:44,550
talking about True Blood is also heavily

2475
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:47,489
fictionalized in terms of what real

2476
01:50:53,180 --> 01:50:50,010
vampires are and even what shapeshifters

2477
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are and you know we have these vampires

2478
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organized into societies and walking

2479
01:50:59,450 --> 01:50:58,230
around in human bodies that are flesh

2480
01:51:02,330 --> 01:50:59,460
and blood but having all these

2481
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:02,340
superpowers well our ancestors when they

2482
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talked about vampires talked about

2483
01:51:07,820 --> 01:51:06,180
something really entirely different they

2484
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talked about a horde that came out of

2485
01:51:15,970 --> 01:51:13,170
the grave Nosferatu more like Nosferatu

2486
01:51:19,850 --> 01:51:15,980
yeah which might be seen in some sort of

2487
01:51:22,540 --> 01:51:19,860
spectral or semi physical form but more

2488
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:22,550
often or not was a presence that

2489
01:51:28,630 --> 01:51:24,930
sexually attacked people created

2490
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:28,640
poltergeist disturbances hag attacks

2491
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:32,130
drained people's energy and health

2492
01:51:38,630 --> 01:51:37,050
caused illness bad luck misfortune right

2493
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and they can't enter your house unless

2494
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you invite them to supposedly right so

2495
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if you think someone's a vampire don't

2496
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offer them coffee don't have them come

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in your house their listeners don't let

2498
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them come in your house that's the

2499
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important thing they try to gain

2500
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admission I use your telephone

2501
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come to it so the film in fiction today

2502
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:01,110
is entirely different vampire than the

2503
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ones that are our ancestors

2504
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:05,370
talked about our ancestors probably

2505
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wouldn't even recognize these these

2506
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:09,810
creations as vampires but they fulfill a

2507
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romantic fantasy for people and I think

2508
01:52:18,530 --> 01:52:16,290
it's a way that we also come to terms

2509
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with things the vampire is a very potent

2510
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symbol of the wrong survival of death

2511
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well they're very sexual too there's

2512
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that whole Anne Rice kind of sexuality I

2513
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think that's been interjected into the

2514
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whole vampire thing since her books

2515
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interview with a vampire and Lestat and

2516
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in all those books which I devoured by

2517
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:39,090
the way I normally don't read that sort

2518
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:41,010
of thing but she's such a good writer

2519
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that I found those books very very very

2520
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entertaining but you do have that sort

2521
01:52:52,130 --> 01:52:49,920
of I think residual effect from her

2522
01:52:53,939 --> 01:52:52,140
books now we're seeing and in some of

2523
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these shows which I avoid

2524
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the plague I've never seen even 30

2525
01:53:00,689 --> 01:52:58,119
seconds of one of these shows and but

2526
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they're really popular with the kids do

2527
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you think that's healthy

2528
01:53:09,299 --> 01:53:05,260
well probably yes and no it's I think

2529
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teenagers have their ways of coming to

2530
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terms with social issues or romantic

2531
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issues self-esteem and things like that

2532
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and the vampire is the the current role

2533
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model of the the alienated youth the the

2534
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outsider the forbidden love the Romeo

2535
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and the Juliet the whole ball of wax and

2536
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that seems to be the motif now that's

2537
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:39,429
popular in fiction for young adults

2538
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these are themes that are always popular

2539
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with young adults and they the symbols

2540
01:53:50,489 --> 01:53:48,489
just change but you know you mentioned

2541
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the sexual aspect of vampires and

2542
01:53:54,029 --> 01:53:52,269
actually that's one thing that a lot of

2543
01:53:57,180 --> 01:53:54,039
people don't know is that the real

2544
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,190
vampire that our ancestors dealt with

2545
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was highly sexual but not in any sort of

2546
01:54:06,449 --> 01:54:03,249
romantic way and this sort of ties into

2547
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:06,459
very old beliefs about the dead that the

2548
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dead are hungry for the physical

2549
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pleasures that they no longer have

2550
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access to because they don't have a body

2551
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and so if they managed to get back into

2552
01:54:20,609 --> 01:54:18,400
the world of the living what are they

2553
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going to go for first well first their

2554
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sex and there's food and alcohol and

2555
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tobacco and some of the other physical

2556
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pleasures but sex is number one most

2557
01:54:33,779 --> 01:54:30,849
course vampires don't always eat other

2558
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:33,789
than you know the blood or True Blood as

2559
01:54:38,969 --> 01:54:36,400
it were well they they do have their own

2560
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blood substitute yes and in True Blood

2561
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but the the accounts from from our

2562
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ancestors talk about very unpleasant sex

2563
01:54:54,299 --> 01:54:51,849
with vampires it was more like a rape it

2564
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was very draining not something that

2565
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anybody wanted so we've sort of gone in

2566
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totally the opposite direction we

2567
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romanticize it now certainly in the

2568
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Twilight movies you know the big thing

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is to

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make it with a vampire and certainly

2571
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that happens in True Blood and it gets

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to be pretty wild and wacky I like the

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same song I like the theme song of True

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Blood if nothing else I like the show

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cast comm with Jeanne and Chris Chris

2686
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are we out of questions we have any more

2687
02:00:24,830 --> 02:00:21,989
we actually do have some more questions

2688
02:00:26,689 --> 02:00:24,840
a couple more from Blowfish what are

2689
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your thoughts on fairies and historical

2690
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folklore in Celtic mythology this is

2691
02:00:35,359 --> 02:00:33,210
from Blowfish she asks is there any sort

2692
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of relation to classic novels such as

2693
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The Hobbit to folklore and you know

2694
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these types of fairy myths in other

2695
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:43,080
words could there possibly be some sort

2696
02:00:48,410 --> 02:00:46,170
of residual I don't know collective

2697
02:00:52,910 --> 02:00:48,420
unconscious memory of a time when maybe

2698
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we coexisted here with out in plain

2699
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sight with fairies and gnomes and elves

2700
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and trolls and and kelpies and mermaids

2701
02:01:06,740 --> 02:01:02,119
and you know all these various types of

2702
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preternatural you know forms what are

2703
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you what are you thinking on that

2704
02:01:14,689 --> 02:01:11,330
what's your thinking these are all

2705
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possibly and probably residents of other

2706
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dimensional realities that in earlier

2707
02:01:23,629 --> 02:01:20,280
times our ancestors may have had more

2708
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access to for a variety of reasons you

2709
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know and the isolated rural life

2710
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the primitiveness so to speak of the

2711
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landscape may have facilitated our

2712
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interactions with these beings I

2713
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consider them to be very real and some

2714
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of the dominant themes about fairies

2715
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especially in Celtic lore are that they

2716
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wore the original hat inhabitants of

2717
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this planet another parallel to Jen -

2718
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Jen were the original inhabitants here -

2719
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yeah when human beings came along they

2720
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lost out they lost out and their

2721
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interactions they got pushed further and

2722
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further back so to speak retreating into

2723
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the hills into subterranean areas and

2724
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finally into their own interdimensional

2725
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reality the fairy land invisible to

2726
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human beings Magana or not they had

2727
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superpowers to begin with or acquired

2728
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them as they as they changed is is

2729
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another matter but they like the Djinn

2730
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have the ability to be invisible and to

2731
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to be in our world

2732
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apparently at their choosing and for

2733
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understandable reasons harboring a lot

2734
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of ill-will against human beings are our

2735
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ancestors even a couple of centuries ago

2736
02:02:47,370 --> 02:02:45,600
regarded the fairies with a lot of

2737
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serious respect

2738
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:51,400
they were formidable beings he didn't

2739
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want to cross them ideally you didn't

2740
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even want to interact with them too much

2741
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because they were very temperamental and

2742
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unpredictable and just as likely to do

2743
02:03:04,350 --> 02:03:01,810
something mean to you is to be nice to

2744
02:03:06,750 --> 02:03:04,360
you right I just considered them to be

2745
02:03:09,570 --> 02:03:06,760
to be very real entities and they're

2746
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:09,580
still present around us today yes I'll

2747
02:03:12,510 --> 02:03:11,170
leave out the cookies and milk like for

2748
02:03:14,550 --> 02:03:12,520
Santa Claus you're supposed to do that

2749
02:03:15,990 --> 02:03:14,560
for the fairies - and if they're really

2750
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happy with you they'll come and clean

2751
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:19,360
your house and it's like all beings I

2752
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:21,010
think you know we can - take a cookie

2753
02:03:27,750 --> 02:03:24,250
cutter approach - denizens of the

2754
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paranormal realities that all entities

2755
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:29,710
you know all demons are this way all

2756
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:31,690
angels are that way all fairies are this

2757
02:03:33,870 --> 02:03:32,080
way

2758
02:03:35,460 --> 02:03:33,880
and that's not the case there are varied

2759
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:35,470
as human beings they have different

2760
02:03:41,490 --> 02:03:37,690
temperaments there are fairies who are

2761
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:41,500
very benevolent who have a more kindly

2762
02:03:46,549 --> 02:03:43,810
attitude toward toward human beings and

2763
02:03:48,859 --> 02:03:46,559
who are willing to

2764
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some sort of cooperative relationship

2765
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with human beings which we see played

2766
02:03:56,959 --> 02:03:54,300
out in intentional communities like fin

2767
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Dorne and peril Andra green hope far

2768
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more people are working with these

2769
02:04:05,990 --> 02:04:02,309
residents of the natural world the

2770
02:04:09,049 --> 02:04:06,000
nature spirits and the fairies - to do

2771
02:04:12,890 --> 02:04:09,059
this experimental agriculture flower

2772
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essences and bringing a spiritual

2773
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:15,989
vibration into plant life for the

2774
02:04:22,910 --> 02:04:20,130
purpose of benefit to human beings I had

2775
02:04:26,020 --> 02:04:22,920
a girlfriend back in the 90s who spent a

2776
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:26,030
couple of years at Finland and it's

2777
02:04:29,990 --> 02:04:28,530
amazing I mean she's you know you heard

2778
02:04:32,750 --> 02:04:30,000
of people with a green thumb she's got a

2779
02:04:36,220 --> 02:04:32,760
green arm all she has to do is look at a

2780
02:04:40,129 --> 02:04:36,230
plant and it it grows abnormally fast

2781
02:04:42,919 --> 02:04:40,139
super robust it'll push you know out of

2782
02:04:44,270 --> 02:04:42,929
it out of the pot they it's just amazing

2783
02:04:47,330 --> 02:04:44,280
her house is just filled with all these

2784
02:04:49,129 --> 02:04:47,340
wonderful plants and and she always has

2785
02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:49,139
kind of hinted around that she felt that

2786
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:50,730
she really gained this ability with

2787
02:04:54,109 --> 02:04:53,130
plants from the time she spent a fin

2788
02:04:55,879 --> 02:04:54,119
tour and it's interesting that you

2789
02:04:58,399 --> 02:04:55,889
should bring that up well here's another

2790
02:05:01,250 --> 02:04:58,409
question and I'm sure you've gotten this

2791
02:05:03,500 --> 02:05:01,260
one quite a few times before and you and

2792
02:05:07,209 --> 02:05:03,510
I had a pretty strange experience last

2793
02:05:11,180 --> 02:05:07,219
spring in the San Luis Valley but here's

2794
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:11,190
here's the question finally this is from

2795
02:05:15,290 --> 02:05:13,010
Blowfish again what is the most

2796
02:05:17,870 --> 02:05:15,300
strangest encounter while researching

2797
02:05:19,399 --> 02:05:17,880
your material and have you experienced

2798
02:05:20,359 --> 02:05:19,409
anything yourself so in other words

2799
02:05:24,410 --> 02:05:20,369
what's the weirdest thing that's

2800
02:05:28,459 --> 02:05:24,420
happened to you ro Wow so many weird

2801
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experiences shadow people the shadow

2802
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people form of jinns I would say since I

2803
02:05:36,410 --> 02:05:34,050
got heavily involved in shadow people

2804
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research this started around the end of

2805
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2004 for me and now the jinn was

2806
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something that and I crossed my radar

2807
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:44,659
back in the late 1980s but I didn't get

2808
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:47,520
deeply involved in jinn research until

2809
02:05:52,129 --> 02:05:49,770
about the time that I started doing the

2810
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shadow people research because I started

2811
02:05:58,149 --> 02:05:53,909
looking at the two of them as one of the

2812
02:05:59,509 --> 02:05:58,159
same and these entities are

2813
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unpredictable

2814
02:06:04,970 --> 02:06:00,750
therefore

2815
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:04,980
they're creepy I have it's taken me into

2816
02:06:12,550 --> 02:06:08,460
some very weird landscapes where I've

2817
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:12,560
seen quite a number of shape shifted

2818
02:06:22,250 --> 02:06:18,480
entity forms and weird animals in in

2819
02:06:26,930 --> 02:06:22,260
these dark towering figures that can

2820
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materialize and dematerialize and they

2821
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communicate by intent rather than in any

2822
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more overt way and it's often hard to

2823
02:06:42,350 --> 02:06:39,080
protect yourself against these entities

2824
02:06:47,510 --> 02:06:42,360
probably the weirdest single experience

2825
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I had was June location that I have been

2826
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:49,410
investigating now for almost three years

2827
02:06:54,050 --> 02:06:51,840
and I'm bringing it to a close because

2828
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the principles are are moving off the

2829
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scene but on one particular night where

2830
02:07:04,930 --> 02:07:00,560
I was there with two other investigators

2831
02:07:07,850 --> 02:07:04,940
for an all-night investigation we had

2832
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:07,860
very strange poltergeist phenomena going

2833
02:07:17,690 --> 02:07:11,250
on it was an old farmhouse built in 1808

2834
02:07:19,700 --> 02:07:17,700
and sounds upstairs our equipment kept

2835
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going off all of our cameras would go

2836
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off at the same time I had I was doing

2837
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EVP in one of the rooms in the farmhouse

2838
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and I had a spontaneous superficial cut

2839
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on my arm that I can't explain because I

2840
02:07:39,710 --> 02:07:37,080
was sitting in the middle of the room

2841
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with nothing around me there was a very

2842
02:07:44,660 --> 02:07:41,910
small superficial cut like you would get

2843
02:07:49,370 --> 02:07:44,670
with a box cutter there was a shadow

2844
02:07:51,500 --> 02:07:49,380
person that appeared in the house that

2845
02:07:53,810 --> 02:07:51,510
all of us could see and was quite

2846
02:07:56,780 --> 02:07:53,820
menacing and throwing off a lot of very

2847
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intense negative energy we had these

2848
02:08:01,370 --> 02:07:59,160
little things I call the grey scurrying

2849
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things little grey scurrying things they

2850
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look like I would say they look like

2851
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cats with too many legs with no heads

2852
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and they run around

2853
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they like to hug the walls around the

2854
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baseboards and run up and down stairs we

2855
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had those going all over the place it

2856
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talking about all these strange entities

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can you continue rosemary well it

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culminated the phenomena it sort of came

2982
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to a head as it's usually the case you

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and then it usually goes quiet

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that's a very predictable pattern in in

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these cases but at any rate the the

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principle of the property who was not

2989
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there who option would be in the all

2990
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night investigations with us nobody

2991
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lived in the farmhouse that was used as

2992
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sort of a management place for it for

2993
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the farm but at any rate he asked me to

2994
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call him by midnight to let him know

2995
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that we were we were all right no cell

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phone service in this area so our cell

2997
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phones were useless

2998
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he had one landline very predictably in

2999
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a Hollywood fashion the landline goes

3000
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dead I go to call him can't get a call

3001
02:14:43,449 --> 02:14:40,699
out and it wasn't like it was totally

3002
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dead I could dial the number and then as

3003
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soon as I hit about four digits into the

3004
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number it would just start beeping and

3005
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the call would not go through didn't

3006
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matter what number I called and no so we

3007
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couldn't get out by the landline and we

3008
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had one door in and out of this place

3009
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that suddenly would not open and if I

3010
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hadn't been there itself

3011
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it's one of the

3012
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hard things to believe it's it seems so

3013
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Hollywood how can a door gets stuck that

3014
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you can't get open but it was like this

3015
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door was dead-bolted all up and down the

3016
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inside of it and the other the two

3017
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investigators I was with who were both

3018
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big guys all three of us tugging on this

3019
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door could not get it open it would not

3020
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come open it was like I just had the

3021
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feeling of like you know you're in this

3022
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movie where the entity is saying get out

3023
02:15:43,870 --> 02:15:41,720
and then you can't get out because the

3024
02:15:49,750 --> 02:15:43,880
doors are locked it was it was that

3025
02:15:52,330 --> 02:15:49,760
crazy and then suddenly after a lot of

3026
02:15:54,610 --> 02:15:52,340
tugging and pulling the door just sprang

3027
02:15:56,590 --> 02:15:54,620
open like there was no problem at all

3028
02:15:59,160 --> 02:15:56,600
whatsoever I know it was not humidity

3029
02:16:03,100 --> 02:15:59,170
because we've been there she says are

3030
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you know along you know many months in

3031
02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:05,450
many environmental conditions and had

3032
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never had a problem with the door even

3033
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remotely sticking and so we decided that

3034
02:16:14,830 --> 02:16:14,210
maybe it would be a good time to call it

3035
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a night

3036
02:16:20,020 --> 02:16:18,380
and so we packed up our equipment this

3037
02:16:24,010 --> 02:16:20,030
is about 1:30 in the morning at this

3038
02:16:28,660 --> 02:16:24,020
point and as we were going out to our

3039
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vehicles to load up you could sense and

3040
02:16:40,959 --> 02:16:36,950
see this almost like a gamut of dark

3041
02:16:42,759 --> 02:16:40,969
shadowy things in the trees watching us

3042
02:16:46,450 --> 02:16:42,769
go it's like you know don't let the door

3043
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hit you on the way out and it was creepy

3044
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:48,559
it was totally creepy we had it this was

3045
02:16:54,450 --> 02:16:51,410
a chicken farm we had murdered chickens

3046
02:16:57,129 --> 02:16:54,460
and very mysterious ways

3047
02:16:59,680 --> 02:16:57,139
there were mutilated cats on the

3048
02:17:03,310 --> 02:16:59,690
property beating balls of light on the

3049
02:17:07,290 --> 02:17:03,320
hill predator like forms that would

3050
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mysterious lights in the sky landed

3051
02:17:16,930 --> 02:17:13,250
craft Bigfoot werewolf creatures demonic

3052
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cats that was my strange escape oh my

3053
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god and where was this was this a

3054
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it's right on the border between

3055
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Pennsylvania and West Virginia oh my

3056
02:17:33,560 --> 02:17:30,030
that's that is a hotbed of activity

3057
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:33,570
right down there that's that would

3058
02:17:38,930 --> 02:17:37,170
definitely be one to to definitely make

3059
02:17:40,339 --> 02:17:38,940
you sit up and take notice so three

3060
02:17:42,470 --> 02:17:40,349
years you were investigating that case

3061
02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:42,480
what did you ever get any real good

3062
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visual evidence any good recordings

3063
02:17:52,459 --> 02:17:49,440
photographs any sort of did you do any

3064
02:17:56,510 --> 02:17:52,469
any sort of forensic testing on the dead

3065
02:17:58,250 --> 02:17:56,520
animals were able to determine sort of

3066
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you know at least get a sense of what

3067
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was behind some of the the actual

3068
02:18:05,390 --> 02:18:02,400
physical manifestations a lot of

3069
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frustrations just like the skinwalker

3070
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ranch in Utah you know they would put up

3071
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all this equipment and then never get

3072
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anything or the equipment would be

3073
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messed around with or broken we had a

3074
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lot of things like that there's one good

3075
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photograph out of that case showing a

3076
02:18:26,540 --> 02:18:24,360
very strange form in a window the case

3077
02:18:28,339 --> 02:18:26,550
with the mutilated chickens that

3078
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happened one night when I was there with

3079
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:32,450
just one other investigator and the

3080
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:35,610
chickens the farm manager said that the

3081
02:18:40,550 --> 02:18:38,370
the chickens they were all laid out very

3082
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:40,560
neatly in a row and they were not

3083
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:43,679
mangled like one would expect with a fox

3084
02:18:50,330 --> 02:18:46,410
or a predator they were behind the

3085
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:50,340
electrified fence and he could not

3086
02:18:54,050 --> 02:18:52,290
figure out what it was that had killed

3087
02:18:56,180 --> 02:18:54,060
the chickens

3088
02:18:59,480 --> 02:18:56,190
sometimes they you know chickens will

3089
02:19:02,419 --> 02:18:59,490
die on their own but these chickens had

3090
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been they they hadn't just dropped dead

3091
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they had been killed but not mangled and

3092
02:19:10,400 --> 02:19:07,710
then they had just been laid out behind

3093
02:19:14,419 --> 02:19:10,410
this electrified fence in a neat little

3094
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row inside their pen well for several

3095
02:19:20,810 --> 02:19:17,790
weeks predator traps were set out and

3096
02:19:23,810 --> 02:19:20,820
and poisoned bait as well to see if it

3097
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was some marauding you know Fox or

3098
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something like that and nothing was ever

3099
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caught so that was you know an unknown

3100
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what is your sense I mean you've named

3101
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off a whole litany of of types of

3102
02:19:43,939 --> 02:19:42,059
phenomena what we do you think it's like

3103
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a portal area do you think it's a some

3104
02:19:48,949 --> 02:19:47,489
sort of doorway what are your what are

3105
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:48,959
your conclusions I mean what what do you

3106
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think is operative there my assessment

3107
02:19:59,359 --> 02:19:55,279
is that it isn't a portal area the

3108
02:20:03,199 --> 02:19:59,369
surrounding area has a very long history

3109
02:20:04,370 --> 02:20:03,209
of paranormal activity going back

3110
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:04,380
generations

3111
02:20:10,429 --> 02:20:07,050
so it's been documented in the local

3112
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lore and anecdotal experience and the

3113
02:20:15,139 --> 02:20:12,180
dominant characteristics of the case

3114
02:20:16,729 --> 02:20:15,149
really fit a very good gin profile that

3115
02:20:18,410 --> 02:20:16,739
is there seemed to be a dominant and

3116
02:20:21,859 --> 02:20:18,420
beyond the property who considered it

3117
02:20:25,090 --> 02:20:21,869
his place or its place and did not like

3118
02:20:28,099 --> 02:20:25,100
human beings coming on the scene and

3119
02:20:30,559 --> 02:20:28,109
creating disturbances now one thing I've

3120
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:30,569
noticed in some of these gin cases is

3121
02:20:35,389 --> 02:20:32,850
they the entity seems to get very upset

3122
02:20:38,059 --> 02:20:35,399
when you when human beings start doing

3123
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things to trees now some of them seem to

3124
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be very fond of trees or certain trees

3125
02:20:46,189 --> 02:20:43,829
and one of the things going on at the

3126
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farm besides the chicken farming farm

3127
02:20:51,109 --> 02:20:48,329
had been dormant for a couple of decades

3128
02:20:53,149 --> 02:20:51,119
and then got reactivated and that's what

3129
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seems to have started up all this

3130
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activity sits on abandoned mine tunnels

3131
02:21:00,439 --> 02:20:58,199
that's another hallmark of intense

3132
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spirit activity but there are a lot of

3133
02:21:07,639 --> 02:21:03,569
woods where they were doing public idle

3134
02:21:10,639 --> 02:21:07,649
culling of the trees and that seemed to

3135
02:21:13,130 --> 02:21:10,649
get a very upset this kind of slow

3136
02:21:17,479 --> 02:21:13,140
murder of the trees through through

3137
02:21:22,340 --> 02:21:17,489
herbicides now it did communicate we

3138
02:21:27,290 --> 02:21:22,350
have some communications on Frank's box

3139
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:27,300
kinds of devices and we did do some some

3140
02:21:36,099 --> 02:21:31,050
seance work where you know a person

3141
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:36,109
acted as a medium to get information and

3142
02:21:42,769 --> 02:21:39,930
it communicated that and this is what

3143
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I've have seen in other cases that seem

3144
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to be gin cases as well that it had been

3145
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here very long

3146
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it was far older than us and been on

3147
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this piece of property for a long time

3148
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and it considered it its property and

3149
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human beings were unwelcome and human if

3150
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the human beings did not leave he would

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make everybody miserable until they left

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3230
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3231
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3232
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low and your body could be full of

3233
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3234
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3235
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3240
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alkaline high ph environment order your

3250
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3251
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3252
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3253
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3254
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[Music]

3257
02:27:00,780 --> 02:26:57,961
rosemary ellen guiley joins us long-time

3258
02:27:02,730 --> 02:27:00,790
paranormal investigator author of loads

3259
02:27:04,140 --> 02:27:02,740
and loads and loads that i save loads of

3260
02:27:06,270 --> 02:27:04,150
books with Gina and Chris and the power

3261
02:27:08,131 --> 02:27:06,280
cast ok the skeptical viewpoint would

3262
02:27:12,360 --> 02:27:08,141
say how do you validate this

3263
02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:12,370
communication is actually from this

3264
02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:14,050
alleged creature not something that you

3265
02:27:20,160 --> 02:27:17,490
kind of made up on the spot that's the

3266
02:27:22,770 --> 02:27:20,170
skeptical question that could be put to

3267
02:27:24,421 --> 02:27:22,780
all mediumistic communication and that's

3268
02:27:26,820 --> 02:27:24,431
one of the things that frustrated

3269
02:27:28,740 --> 02:27:26,830
psychical researchers you know with the

3270
02:27:31,261 --> 02:27:28,750
founding of psychical research which

3271
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:31,271
evolved into parapsychology starting

3272
02:27:38,091 --> 02:27:34,000
from as an organized discipline in the

3273
02:27:43,080 --> 02:27:38,101
late 1800s where scientists attempted to

3274
02:27:45,511 --> 02:27:43,090
prove mediumistic communications and no

3275
02:27:47,190 --> 02:27:45,521
really verifiable proof was ever

3276
02:27:50,310 --> 02:27:47,200
obtained there was always an argument

3277
02:27:53,671 --> 02:27:50,320
that could be posed as to where the

3278
02:27:56,671 --> 02:27:53,681
information comes from that you're

3279
02:28:00,240 --> 02:27:56,681
you're interpreting things to to suit

3280
02:28:04,110 --> 02:28:00,250
your subconscious wishes or your your

3281
02:28:06,060 --> 02:28:04,120
own prevailing theories or even more so

3282
02:28:07,921 --> 02:28:06,070
the argument is super sigh and I've

3283
02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:07,931
never really been a fan of super side

3284
02:28:12,860 --> 02:28:10,210
but it's it's you know technically hard

3285
02:28:15,570 --> 02:28:12,870
to refute supersized holds that

3286
02:28:17,850 --> 02:28:15,580
information exists everywhere and we do

3287
02:28:19,890 --> 02:28:17,860
not know the bounds of consciousness the

3288
02:28:24,051 --> 02:28:19,900
unbounded consciousness and so

3289
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:24,061
technically a medium might unwittingly

3290
02:28:31,591 --> 02:28:28,240
access any information anywhere that

3291
02:28:34,530 --> 02:28:31,601
could be a knowingly or sort of

3292
02:28:36,450 --> 02:28:34,540
unconsciously constructed reconstructed

3293
02:28:38,551 --> 02:28:36,460
in a way as to seemed to come from the

3294
02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:38,561
dead or spirits or whatever but the

3295
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:40,450
information is out there sort of like an

3296
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:44,050
you know big cosmic database well super

3297
02:28:49,890 --> 02:28:47,050
psy has has been a big stumbling block

3298
02:28:51,480 --> 02:28:49,900
to proving any sort of mediumistic

3299
02:28:52,889 --> 02:28:51,490
communications because it can't be

3300
02:28:54,330 --> 02:28:52,899
disproved you can't perm super

3301
02:28:58,550 --> 02:28:54,340
sigh but you can't disprove it either

3302
02:29:01,859 --> 02:28:58,560
and it's the same with mediumistic

3303
02:29:04,109 --> 02:29:01,869
communications you can't really prove

3304
02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:04,119
them but you can't disprove them so

3305
02:29:08,159 --> 02:29:05,770
you're you're left in this sort of

3306
02:29:10,529 --> 02:29:08,169
uncomfortable twilight zone with piles

3307
02:29:12,750 --> 02:29:10,539
of anecdotal evidence in support of

3308
02:29:15,899 --> 02:29:12,760
something and that's where a lot of the

3309
02:29:18,050 --> 02:29:15,909
paranormal has to fall back and into

3310
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:18,060
evidence in support of rather than

3311
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:20,770
scientific proof well is there a way to

3312
02:29:28,409 --> 02:29:25,090
bridge this gap rosemary right now we

3313
02:29:31,969 --> 02:29:28,419
don't seem to have it and I can only

3314
02:29:35,429 --> 02:29:31,979
hope that at some point there's a

3315
02:29:42,210 --> 02:29:35,439
development in science or technology

3316
02:29:46,019 --> 02:29:42,220
that will enable us to to have that that

3317
02:29:48,989 --> 02:29:46,029
closure between experience and science

3318
02:29:52,500 --> 02:29:48,999
I'd love to get a gin and taps room and

3319
02:29:55,710 --> 02:29:52,510
gentleman in a Faraday cage and quiz him

3320
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:55,720
have my way with him interview them man

3321
02:29:58,859 --> 02:29:56,800
I would love that

3322
02:30:02,729 --> 02:29:58,869
plenty of people say that they can

3323
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:02,739
capture gin getting them to communicate

3324
02:30:09,029 --> 02:30:05,770
is another matter but you know we're

3325
02:30:12,779 --> 02:30:09,039
still back in this you know this blurry

3326
02:30:16,139 --> 02:30:12,789
anecdotal area as well now there do seem

3327
02:30:19,380 --> 02:30:16,149
to be patterns to the communications in

3328
02:30:21,719 --> 02:30:19,390
these cases that that I would say are

3329
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:21,729
gin cases they're not demonic they're

3330
02:30:27,989 --> 02:30:23,770
not other kinds of entities they're

3331
02:30:29,010 --> 02:30:27,999
Jen's and the the entity that's causing

3332
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:29,020
the problem

3333
02:30:37,199 --> 02:30:34,630
acts in pattern sorts of ways that are

3334
02:30:38,899 --> 02:30:37,209
similar case to case place to place and

3335
02:30:42,750 --> 02:30:38,909
that's one of the things that I've been

3336
02:30:45,889 --> 02:30:42,760
documenting in the past several years or

3337
02:30:49,109 --> 02:30:45,899
what are these patterns of behaviors and

3338
02:30:51,210 --> 02:30:49,119
communications but here again you know

3339
02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:51,220
you're quite right gene you know it's

3340
02:30:57,500 --> 02:30:54,310
it's still a long way off from proof but

3341
02:31:01,550 --> 02:30:57,510
I think when we when we can build these

3342
02:31:05,930 --> 02:31:01,560
patterns of behavior and characteristics

3343
02:31:11,621 --> 02:31:05,940
it bolsters the case for

3344
02:31:21,501 --> 02:31:16,480
scientists may remain unconvinced but

3345
02:31:24,350 --> 02:31:21,511
human beings have these experiences and

3346
02:31:28,310 --> 02:31:24,360
if they're not real why are we having

3347
02:31:31,450 --> 02:31:28,320
the experiences is it a question here

3348
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:31,460
very much on some way to validate this

3349
02:31:37,841 --> 02:31:34,110
how do we validate reports of this

3350
02:31:41,390 --> 02:31:37,851
experience the only way we can validate

3351
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:41,400
these experiences are through the

3352
02:31:47,331 --> 02:31:44,240
eyewitnesses and the experiences and

3353
02:31:49,310 --> 02:31:47,341
investigators you know like myself we

3354
02:31:52,461 --> 02:31:49,320
have our own experiences and the course

3355
02:31:55,761 --> 02:31:52,471
of investigations but the eyewitnesses

3356
02:31:59,961 --> 02:31:55,771
are the ones who come to us with reports

3357
02:32:04,581 --> 02:31:59,971
of their accounts and it's often hard to

3358
02:32:08,001 --> 02:32:04,591
evaluate eyewitnesses in terms of their

3359
02:32:10,211 --> 02:32:08,011
their credibility do they have issues

3360
02:32:12,801 --> 02:32:10,221
going on are they highly imaginative

3361
02:32:15,470 --> 02:32:12,811
where did the imagination leave off and

3362
02:32:19,940 --> 02:32:15,480
really experience start or are they so

3363
02:32:22,341 --> 02:32:19,950
blended together that becomes difficult

3364
02:32:23,990 --> 02:32:22,351
to separate them out an even to

3365
02:32:25,970 --> 02:32:24,000
understand I guess if it is a real

3366
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:25,980
experience whether this is a real

3367
02:32:30,501 --> 02:32:27,210
experience or something

3368
02:32:33,501 --> 02:32:30,511
they're fantasizing well sometimes it

3369
02:32:37,341 --> 02:32:33,511
seems they are I've had many cases where

3370
02:32:40,761 --> 02:32:37,351
people have contacted me and it seems to

3371
02:32:43,581 --> 02:32:40,771
me that there my feeling is my gut

3372
02:32:46,430 --> 02:32:43,591
feeling is that they're projecting onto

3373
02:32:49,940 --> 02:32:46,440
the environment they've got other issues

3374
02:32:53,690 --> 02:32:49,950
going on for example people who have

3375
02:32:56,631 --> 02:32:53,700
domestic and family problems if one of

3376
02:32:59,751 --> 02:32:56,641
them has any sort of paranormal bent at

3377
02:33:01,881 --> 02:32:59,761
all is what I will call like a psychic

3378
02:33:06,711 --> 02:33:01,891
lightning rod you know just seems to

3379
02:33:10,371 --> 02:33:06,721
stir phenomena up and then you put some

3380
02:33:13,881 --> 02:33:10,381
sort of intense emotional issues into

3381
02:33:16,581 --> 02:33:13,891
that environment things may happen that

3382
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:16,591
may seem to be paranormal but really our

3383
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:19,270
projections from you know human psycho

3384
02:33:23,340 --> 02:33:21,010
kinetic energy more than anything else

3385
02:33:25,979 --> 02:33:23,350
and they can be interpreted in certain

3386
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:25,989
ways and this happens a lot to people

3387
02:33:31,410 --> 02:33:29,010
who get calls on demonic cases you know

3388
02:33:35,880 --> 02:33:31,420
families say they think they have a

3389
02:33:38,729 --> 02:33:35,890
demonic spirit present and it's likely

3390
02:33:42,719 --> 02:33:38,739
that they don't they've got other things

3391
02:33:44,910 --> 02:33:42,729
that are creating disturbances but then

3392
02:33:46,979 --> 02:33:44,920
on the other hand you also have negative

3393
02:33:49,679 --> 02:33:46,989
entities who like to take advantage of

3394
02:33:51,090 --> 02:33:49,689
those kinds of environments but that's

3395
02:33:53,939 --> 02:33:51,100
the kind of thing where you might have

3396
02:33:56,000 --> 02:33:53,949
to feel that you're going to need to

3397
02:33:58,939 --> 02:33:56,010
perform some kind of exorcism

3398
02:34:02,939 --> 02:33:58,949
sometimes exorcisms don't really help

3399
02:34:06,269 --> 02:34:02,949
people seem to think that we have

3400
02:34:08,069 --> 02:34:06,279
eminent domain you know and and that we

3401
02:34:10,559 --> 02:34:08,079
can make anything go away and that's not

3402
02:34:13,170 --> 02:34:10,569
always the case anyone who's ever been

3403
02:34:17,340 --> 02:34:13,180
involved in exorcisms or looked into

3404
02:34:20,880 --> 02:34:17,350
infestations and intense negatively

3405
02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:20,890
haunted places knows that sometimes you

3406
02:34:25,769 --> 02:34:23,340
just don't get the stuff to go away and

3407
02:34:28,620 --> 02:34:25,779
there do seem to be entities who have

3408
02:34:31,529 --> 02:34:28,630
what I call land rights they are very

3409
02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:31,539
territorial they seem to be able to have

3410
02:34:36,090 --> 02:34:34,000
a toehold in the physical reality and

3411
02:34:40,109 --> 02:34:36,100
the land itself on our side of things

3412
02:34:43,590 --> 02:34:40,119
and they're just as determined to to be

3413
02:34:48,029 --> 02:34:43,600
here as we are and sometimes we can

3414
02:34:50,849 --> 02:34:48,039
dampen the energy down but we can't make

3415
02:34:52,109 --> 02:34:50,859
things completely go away I'll tell you

3416
02:34:53,460 --> 02:34:52,119
what we're going to have to go away in a

3417
02:34:55,319 --> 02:34:53,470
couple of minutes where's your research

3418
02:34:59,760 --> 02:34:55,329
going to take you from here I'm

3419
02:35:03,000 --> 02:34:59,770
continuing my Ginn research and portal

3420
02:35:06,510 --> 02:35:03,010
area research I have a new book coming

3421
02:35:08,370 --> 02:35:06,520
out next year on multi dimensional

3422
02:35:10,740 --> 02:35:08,380
portals that's not the title the book

3423
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:10,750
the book is called the spinning veil but

3424
02:35:14,490 --> 02:35:12,850
it is about multi dimensional portals

3425
02:35:16,139 --> 02:35:14,500
the presence of jinn and their

3426
02:35:20,490 --> 02:35:16,149
relationship especially the shadow

3427
02:35:23,790 --> 02:35:20,500
people ETS and paranormal activity Wow

3428
02:35:27,179 --> 02:35:23,800
you're covering all bases well you know

3429
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:27,189
everything's interconnected gene and I

3430
02:35:33,059 --> 02:35:31,600
think that we've the jinn have have not

3431
02:35:35,250 --> 02:35:33,069
been factored in too

3432
02:35:36,630 --> 02:35:35,260
explanations and considerations in the

3433
02:35:39,420 --> 02:35:36,640
past they just haven't been on our radar

3434
02:35:42,300 --> 02:35:39,430
and and I want to see them put on the

3435
02:35:44,909 --> 02:35:42,310
radar I think that they are a powerful

3436
02:35:47,099 --> 02:35:44,919
factor going on and because they are

3437
02:35:49,469 --> 02:35:47,109
virtually unknown to most people in the

3438
02:35:53,189 --> 02:35:49,479
West I think that they've been able to

3439
02:35:56,250 --> 02:35:53,199
make incredible inroads into the psychic

3440
02:35:57,540 --> 02:35:56,260
landscape and right under our noses and

3441
02:35:59,279 --> 02:35:57,550
we don't even know it

3442
02:36:00,840 --> 02:35:59,289
I'll tell you what we have to know this

3443
02:36:01,429 --> 02:36:00,850
where can we find more information about

3444
02:36:05,130 --> 02:36:01,439
it

3445
02:36:08,849 --> 02:36:05,140
ww visionary living.com is my main

3446
02:36:11,819 --> 02:36:08,859
website and gin universe DJI and an

3447
02:36:13,409 --> 02:36:11,829
universe calm is my other website Chris

3448
02:36:15,599 --> 02:36:13,419
O'Brien where do we find more of your

3449
02:36:18,269 --> 02:36:15,609
stuff you can always find me here at the

3450
02:36:20,429 --> 02:36:18,279
pear cast forum dr. Peric ascom I'm a

3451
02:36:23,159 --> 02:36:20,439
moderator we're redoing my website and

3452
02:36:25,050 --> 02:36:23,169
our strange planet as we speak and of

3453
02:36:28,409 --> 02:36:25,060
course we'll be bringing that San Luis

3454
02:36:30,869 --> 02:36:28,419
Valley camera feed to the para cast very

3455
02:36:32,309 --> 02:36:30,879
shortly here in the New Year rosemary

3456
02:36:34,559 --> 02:36:32,319
ellen guiley thank you so much for

3457
02:36:37,109 --> 02:36:34,569
joining us this week on the power cast

3458
02:36:39,239 --> 02:36:37,119
thank you very much for a lively show

3459
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:39,249
it's a pleasure to be on with you gene

3460
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:41,050
and crisp and I look forward to seeing

3461
02:37:00,400 --> 02:36:57,520
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3462
02:37:03,390 --> 02:37:00,410
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3463
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:03,400
presentation of making the impossible